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[Tournament] 2007 MLB Discussion Thread
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Hotobu
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Old Aug 9, 2007, 03:24 AM #1 of 184
Bonds hit #757 tonight.

Everyone can chutup anyway, because Sadaharu Oh's 868 will probably never be broken (unless A-Rod puts on 50+ home run seasons for the rest of his career). Though, at his current pace (44 HR/yr), he could do it in about 8.5 seasons.
Well if we're going to get into "other" leages then Josh Gibson can be argued as the homerun king. Though there are some good Japanese players I don't think anyone is going to say that their league is superior to the Major Leagues. Some baseball historians, however, will argue that the Negro Leages were on par with, if not better than, the Major Leagues (note: Jackie Robinson was an instant All-Star, but wasn't even the best player on his TEAM). Furthermore Aaron spent 2 years in the Negro Leagues before being called "up" to the majors, so should we count those homers?

On the subject of Barry Bonds. I lean towards him being dirty, but because there isn't hard evidence showing that my personal code doesn't allow me to convict him. He bulked up like hell seemingly overnight, but it isn't necessarily true that he took steroids. Putting that aside let's not forget that hitting homers takes tremendous skill. While muscles help you have to know pitchers, have a good eye, damed good reaction time, and impeccable coordination. Steroids or not Bonds has the most perfect swing I've ever seen. I don't think a team of animators could sit down and put together a better one. It's quick its compact, and it's powerful allowing him good control and a bit more time to react to pitches. Power is part of the longball, but skill is still paramount.

Bonds*, Palmero, McGwire, and Canseco aren't the only guys who took steroids. They've been singled out because they're big name hitters. The guys whos bodies almost warrant suspicion, but if hitters can be dirty why can't pitchers? Hell the guy who gave up the 755HR to bonds WAS busted for steroids not too long ago. I don't mean this to say that two wrongs make a right, but it's reasonable to believe that there are and have been juiced pitchers that Bonds homered off of.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Last edited by Hotobu; Aug 9, 2007 at 03:32 AM.
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