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Abu Musab al-Zarqawi: DEAD (sensational foxnews wallpaper inside)
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Old Jun 8, 2006, 08:37 AM #1 of 55
The body has been identified by facial recognition, finger prints, and known scars. This couldn't be anyone else than the dude.

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in a word : No.

In more words : He was sort of a national idol in Iraq, this probably wont go by unavenged, but how, i dont know, hell, you cant blow a tank up with a molotov cocktail (well not outside of GTA, anyway)
I don't think he was a hero, dude. I remember hearing on the radio that he carried out beheadings HIMSELF, and that he was known for incredible brutality against even his own people.

Also, there's a report that the information on where he would be came from one of his agents. How's that for an organization that is being crippled?

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Jun 8, 2006, 09:10 AM #2 of 55
What to do, then?

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It remains that this guy had a certain charisma, and the build of a leader that does not come easily.

If one had to choose between killing him or not, you'd have to be stupid not to.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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Old Jun 8, 2006, 01:17 PM #3 of 55
Originally Posted by Sassafrass
You know, I may get shit for this, but I can't believe you people are celebrating someone's death.

Yea okay so he was a real BADASS MOTHERFUCKER who was extrenously cruel to even his own people, carrying out beheadings himself and all. But I just can't imagine celebrating death. Maybe I'm insane.
I thought someone might respond like this.

But then I thought about the two people this guy BEHEADED with his own hands, the thousands of other people who died because of him.

Then I thought people who responded like that were insane.

Because, you know, I am a pussy-flinging liberal, but I still think that there are just times when it makes no sense to be a pussy-flinging liberal.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jun 8, 2006, 02:03 PM #4 of 55
Originally Posted by Rock
So because terrorists use terrorist methods, we can use them as well?

Why didn't they bomb the shit out of Saddam? Would've saved them the farce that is his trial.
I think people are regretting not having killed Saddam on the spot.

After this crazy trial and everything they are probably wishing they put him out of his misery then and there.

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Old Jun 8, 2006, 05:53 PM #5 of 55
Originally Posted by PUG1911
His own hands? Like a judo-chop?:ninja:

Seriously though, I don't see why the notion that arresting and taking him to trial is so ridiculous all of a sudden? Isn't that like, the way that people used to want to deal with such matters? One's gut says to kill, but one's mind used to at least *try* to over-ride that.

Also, you don't see the line about 'killing millions!' as being just a wee bit exagerated?

Or is the popular mentality of the day really "Kill 'em. Trials are for pussies. He would have wrought untold horrors if they captured him.. somehow." ?
Dude. Do you know what has happened with the Saddam trial?

Also, you understand this guy was guarded by suicide-belt terrorists, right?

Also, I said thousands, not millions, by which counts we could count more than a thousand Americans ALONE who were killed by or as a result of insurgency, which was by and large led by this dude.

I find it funny that you haven't heard about how Zarqawi beheaded Nicholas Berg, an American civilian.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 9, 2006, 07:17 AM #6 of 55
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Zarqawi's organization represented, according to U.S. military estimates, 12% of the insurgency; that still leaves 88% who aren't Al Queda. Further, the jihadist types are also not overly loved by the Iraqi nationalist types and vice versa (Hamas' relationship with Fatah makes for a worthwhile comparison). I somehow doubt that those 12% are the strongest force fighting in the insurgency.
This 12% is responsible for a much larger portion of the suicide attacks that happen in Iraq than the number might lead you to believe.

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You realise Bush is surrounded by Secret Service men who will die before they let anyone kill him, right? omg, TERRORISTS!

We could count a thousand Americans ALONE who were killed by or as a result of the UNNECESSARY WAR IN IRAQ, which was by and large led by the American Government.
I understand that, I was not for the war either. However, what do you want the American troops to do? Pack up in leave? Yeah, that's something.

Also, I am not American. I'd like it if you didn't call them "my troops."

There are better scenarios for you to make a two-way street argument; this is just not one of them. Zarqawi ordered the killing of Iraqis and was by and large responsible of instigating sectarian violence.

Bush, although misguided is a very well-intentioned man. Democracy is a beautiful thing. I understand he is not the most honest man in the world, but he is not as evil as Zarqawi, by any means.

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Well, now that you meantion how "my troops" are so evil? What's up with the Canadian troops in Afghanistan? Those are all pure?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Jun 9, 2006, 12:02 PM #7 of 55
Whatever man. I was against both invasions to begin with, as are most Americans now.

You can go on your crusade for morals and how awful we are for being happy this guy is dead.

I just want to get one thing straight: if this whole war is for oil why is America is spending billions of dollars in it and actually driving the costs of oil UP for itself? Furthermore, why is America whiling to stick it out with all these losses?

I said it before and I am going to repeat it: Democracy is a beautiful thing. Bush may be dumb and he may use the worst possible methods, but his intentions aren't inherently evil like those of Zarqawi, who fueled sectarian violence and looked to instigate a civil war.

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