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The Immigration Protests
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Old May 28, 2006, 06:08 PM #51 of 453
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For instance, let's say that there's a family that immigrated to the United States legally, which for them would probably mean jumping through quite a few hoops. Now, don't you think that this family might be a little annoyed at the sight of other people cheating the process that they had to struggle through and just sneaking across the border? It's akin to there being two people getting an A in a class, with one studying hard while the other one bringing in a cheat sheet, but with both acing the test.
My family came to the US legally, it took a hell of a long time. What, 8 years or something, and that's because my mom holds a doctorate degree. I think this is ridiculous, so I am not against illegal immigration. If the process wasn't so outrageous than I'd say go with the law, but the system is totally unfair and unrealistic.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old May 29, 2006, 06:19 AM #52 of 453
We have overly restrictive policies, when in reality we benefit from from trememndously from immigration. Our farm business would come to a screeching halt if it was not for immigrants. Our house-building business would be seriously hurt. Do I even need to talk about landscaping or house-cleaning?

Also, it is not like immgrants are stealing those jobs from anyone: recently I heard on NPR that immigrants instead HELP the economy by making services more acceptable. American house cleaners used to charge as much as double what current immigrants do, which meant that very few people could afford their services. Now, since immigrants offer the service, many more people can afford to have their houses cleaned, increasing the amount of money spent.


I think what hurts this argument most is the generalized view that sheltered Americans have of immigrants. Immigrants are nothing more than people fleeing corupt governments in order to find decent, humane jobs. They only want to clean your shit and cook your food, it's not like they are out there for world domination.

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Old May 31, 2006, 05:56 PM #53 of 453
I've been through the Boston ESL classes 7th and 8th grade, regular ed for high school. I got into a few prestigious colleges with full scholarships ($45,000 a year) and have a few freinds who went through the same system and are going to MIT, Harvard, and Yale.

By the same token, though, most of the people in my ESL classes are now house cleaners and painters.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old May 31, 2006, 06:27 PM #54 of 453
Yes, absolutely.

But not necesarily because our ESL classes are great. They came here when they were 12-15. They had it easy picking up the languages. Their parents don't speak a lick.

I will tell you about my mom though. She is a house cleaner, makes good money, actually. She can speak english just fine, but she panics very easily. That is, to say, she can understand everything, order a meal, go to the movies and get the gist of the movie, but she can get nercous and shut down and not understand anything anymore.

She's a fine citizen like that, I think.

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Old Jun 8, 2006, 08:36 PM #55 of 453
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Old Jun 12, 2006, 07:05 AM #56 of 453


Well.

I've said it before: no point in following an unjust law. Blah di blah.

PS: You came in a little late in the thread. This has been discusses to no end. As a matter of fact, the thread was already dead.

So there.

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