![]() |
||
|
|
Welcome to the Exploding Garrmondo Weiner Interactive Swiss Army Penis. |
GFF is a community of gaming and music enthusiasts. We have a team of dedicated moderators, constant member-organized activities, and plenty of custom features, including our unique journal system. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ or our GFWiki. You will have to register before you can post. Membership is completely free (and gets rid of the pesky advertisement unit underneath this message).
|
![]() |
|
Thread Tools |
Btw, to an earlier post I read, you're not alone. The only true MGS to me is the first one for playstation, after that, part 2 started getting corny and more confusing than it really needed to be, MGS3 was just one big piece of garbage, Hideo is just like Lucas, he may be able to come up with good ides, but he can't write a script worth a shit. About 90% of the lines AND character names were so horribly corny, that I had to put the game down. I was actually waiting for MGS4, but now they make him look old and you're all saying it's supposedly something about his clone thing, but then otacon is also old, so that doesn't really say anything to me.
I've gotten in arguments before about this, it's fine if you guys like MGS3 and still love it, but I couldn't get past the fact that the main bosses' names started with "The" and ended with some retarded word. I don't think even the japanese language could've saved it from making me disgusted. We'll see how MGS4 goes, but as far as i'm concerned, he doesn't even want to work on MGS games at all, he even said so himself, that he wanted to finish off the games, but then he keeps making them on cliffhangers, so that's his own fault. If he really wants to move on, he should at least let someone else work on it, instead of butchering up the story. my 2 cents, and my opinion alone. Jam it back in, in the dark. ![]() |
Voice Actors: it seemed like David Hayter was losing his touch, and his voice started sounding a little too forced, and you could almost hear his "real" voice behind the acting. Other actors also over-acted their parts, I really love Ocelot but some parts and lines he was given just.. made him out to be like one of those douche bags that hang around DDR machines and start 'shadowing' as they call it.(And by that, I mean his mannerisms) It was funny that he dropped his gun when he started flipping it in his hand, at least it showed that he wasn't all 'that' just yet. But then his little 'roar' to call on his squad really made me laugh cuz it sounded so damn lame, especially since I didn't know what it was for at first. (finding out what it was after, really made no difference) Script: So it doesn't seem to be all his forte and he's not as bad as Lucas, so that may have been a bad comparison, he does have some good lines. But jesus, at the beggining of the game when Snake talks to The Boss, she just.. oh god... she goes on ranting about what it is to be a soldier... it's like... listen up 'hoe', we already know what it is to be a soldier, it's only been pounded into us the past 2 games, plus you're not talking to a f'ing n00b, you're talking to THE snake, even on part 3 he's revered as a great soldier, so why the hell do we even need that speech from her? I complain because it went on for far too long and it was unnecessary to begin with. See what I mean? if you look back at a couple of things, you'll know what i'm talking about. About part 2: Yeah it made some sense, and sure they explained it, but it wasn't feasible. I didn't say "SURE! that's awesome", it was more like.... "*vomit*". They pretty much ruined a couple of things about the story: A) They made part 1 to be completely insignificant of a story and more of a "prelude" of things to come. B) Liquid living in ocelot's arm. I have nothing to say, this is the stupidest idea, I don't care what explanation he can come up with. I don't care if it's an act of god, I don't care if liquid is a damn robot, I don't care if they make it make sense, because it's just a really stupid idea. He shouldn't have killed liquid if he liked him that much, now he wants to bring him back as a damn arm, that's great. Nuff said. C) Metal Gear Ray is supposed to be SO much more powerful than Rex, yet they managed to destroy one. Sweet, k. Now a shit load more come out, one after another, awesome battle, sweet background, it was great. Yet ... hold on a second, that makes out Rex to be a piece of shit, Raiden doesn't just kill MGR, he kills like 20 of them. That really makes any metal gear out to be a piece of crap, main character or not, they really need to give some props to the machine from which the game derives it's name from. D) Vamp is an example of something corny done right. He didn't make sense with his whole ... vampire crap in a very unusual setting, but his personality and background, and voice totally made up for it. And he's also like the only character they didn't make an action figure out of. Funny eh? E) MGS1 > MGS2 Final Battle. The music is so anti-climatic in the end, I didn't even know I was at the last battle, I loved the gameplay, and holding a katana, there's no better weapon in my little world, but the music is all ... blah, techno-ish and anti-climatic, it sounded like something from another game, like a mid-boss music, so blah. In the end, I just weigh overall what the game as a whole has to offer and not exactly the series. I know MGS3 has an awesome final battle music and setting, and that's how it should be, cinematic, climatic and a soundtrack worthy of recognition. It's too bad the rest of the game falls short with their un-original enemies that came out of the Ginyu force or some equally annoying power ranger squad. What's worse is that they have such shallow stories, they don't even compare to any character from part 1 or 2, it's a shame really but that's what I liked so much about MGS, is that even enemies in this story aren't really enemies sometimes, they have their own reasons for fighting and you can see their side of the story and actually feel sorry for them. But Snake in the end has to face off against them because it's the path they've chosen, or whatever, etc. Sniper Wolf anyone? Psycho Mantis? Yeah, so anyways. That's why I think MGS3 is garbage and MGS2 is corny and disgracing. Yet I bought all the action figures to part 2. I like 'em all to some degree, but I can't agree when someone says "they keep getting better", because they're not. They retain some key values, but they disregard the rest of the elements that make it a good game, ALL around. You don't have to agree with me, and i'd love to hear your opinion on some of the things I've complained about, i'm not being sarcastic either, I just wanna see what others think and if it bothered them at all. Let me know what you think. There's nowhere I can't reach. ![]()
Last edited by Cel; Apr 30, 2006 at 11:59 PM.
|
Both movies and games have scripts, both have camera angles, both have acting supervision, both have animators, special effects, music coordinators, and it's all decided by one man alone in the end. The Director. heh, that should've been a secret boss in MGS3 huh? and when you beat him, he should die yelling in an echoey voice - "Cut cut cut cut..." And about not playing it, thanks for the suggestion, already way ahead of you. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. ![]()
Last edited by Cel; May 1, 2006 at 02:37 AM.
|
I called her a 'hoe', :eyebrow: so what? ![]()
MGS1 = Terrorists trying to steal nuclear weapon to sell to the blackmarket and make millions while at the same time ripping them off. Includes several plot twists, awesome dialogue, music, and action development. Great ending. MGS2 = Starts out as a terrorist attack on an oil rig where a political figure is being held hostage for ransom. Develops into a plot twist and turns out what you thought was going on, wasn't. A plot twist off a plot twist happens. People die. Plot twist off a plot twist turns out to be another plot twist. Major plot twist: it was all A LIE. dun dun dun, all the information you've just been spoon fed, you can throw back out, it was all one giant psyhocological plot twist, awesome huh? yeah okay... show me the ending. Ending comes, more talk about life, and technology and what we are, what it is, what will be come of it, la la la la. Not buying the whole story. My point, he goes from something concrete, and then develops it into something that WASN'T MGS to begin with. I don't care if you think part 2 is great, or if part 3 is the best, point is, all around, if you take ALL the elements of a game, the first, the original, still is better than part 2 and 3 combined. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? ![]() |
![]() I was speaking idiomatically. ![]()
Last edited by Cel; May 1, 2006 at 02:08 PM.
|
Games Vs Movies article 1 Video Game Industry Gets Serious Peter Molyneux Interview "Just as many cinema snobs will be quick to point out that film is the ultimate multifaceted art form, hardcore gamers will adamantly defend their favorite medium’s artistic merit. Combining elements of cinema, the formal arts, music and sound design, as well as the all-important interactivity of game play mechanics, video games stand to overtake film as both the most popular, and advanced of any artistic medium. Big studios like Warner Bros. will always distribute blockbuster movies, and large game publishers like Electronic Arts will always distribute best selling games. A visit to the cinema can communicate a message from creator to audience in a deeply emotional way that took writers, producers and directors years to perfect. Hopefully the developing medium of the video game will be given enough artistic breathing room for creators to construct emotional messages that are communicated to the audience not just through passive viewing, but through immersive experience." - Closing statement from : Can a Video Game constitute as art? There, educate yourself. I don't sprout nonsense unless I clearly state that it's my opinion, this however is not an 'opinion', it is a fact that is happening as we speak. That is why the movie industry is trying to get their hands in the money and are starting to invest even more in video game production. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? ![]()
Last edited by Cel; May 1, 2006 at 10:41 PM.
|
How old are you? I had a kid stop me in a wal-mart once and ask me why my friend was buying a transformers collectors edition, he suggested that we should be out drinking and having parties and getting wasted. The kid was 10. I told him to wait until he's our age and then he can decided what he should do with his life. Just goes to show what the next generation is already thinking about how life should be.
There is a handful of 60 year olds playing FFXI right now as we speak, I have more than 3 friends on the game that are over 30, i'm only 7 years away from that, you think I won't be playing till i'm 50 or more? just because you don't have time, doesn't mean you won't be able to play games. People will play games for whatever little time they can. Me? i'm going to develop them, that's why i'm attending the art institute, what people do with their lives is completely up to them, but you can't base the past generation on their looks of today's entertainment. Just how the generation before us liked different music, we are gonna like different music, and we'll keep liking it till we die. We are the new generation and i'm telling you right now, yes, we are going to be playing games till the day we die. Go look up a census of the average age of players in games. You'll find some interesting facts, don't base knowledge on your look of things. Just for the record, I didn't read the whole "game industry is gonna overtake the movie industry" in some website. There was more than a couple of seminars by people in the industry at our school who invested some of their monologue about said topic.
If you really wanna learn something, look up the god site for all industry news and job listings, maybe you'll get an idea of how it all works. Gamasutra. I'm done ranting and arguing with you, you have absolutely no valid proof for your arguments and your complaints are stale and empty with nothing more informative than- "i'm right and you're wrong cuz I said so"-barrage of nonsense. ![]() FELIPE NO ![]()
Last edited by Cel; May 2, 2006 at 02:14 AM.
|
it's from one of my favorite movies, I just had to post it regardless how dumb it is lol.
What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? ![]() |
Yeah, same voice actors, half the inspiration to work on the same project again I guess. Totally fails.
Jam it back in, in the dark. ![]() |
Accents gave it depth even if it was somewhat unoriginal that a chinese girl would have an accent. At least she sounded cute. But that's just my opinion.
Most amazing jew boots ![]() |
Well it's all in their tone of voice. You can deffinitely sound boring, can't you? it's just how much they help to break up the monotony of the codec conversations, specific sounding voices help distinguish personalities as well. Just like sniper wolf, at least I think so. I enjoyed them, so did a couple of friends of mine. Sure it's cliche, but if the actor is good at accents, let them do it I say.
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. ![]() |
I think KOTOR has given me what no movie could ever hope to achieve.
I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? ![]() |
As for the debate, there is none. Discussion's over and complete. Argue all you want, the TRUTH IS OUT THERE. /X-files Aight, moving on. How's those metal gear acid games? I heard/saw they were card games? is the story good or are they just puzzle games? I'm getting a PSP something in the next couple months. I was speaking idiomatically. ![]()
Last edited by Cel; May 4, 2006 at 02:37 AM.
|
Sure it wasn't keanu?
edit: that sounded like someone else ... lol, or something else. Hope it's one of those really long trailers. I still have the MGS2 trailer, the trailers are always the best part from the games, I don't think anyone out there makes trailers as good as the MGS games, even movies. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? ![]()
Last edited by Cel; May 6, 2006 at 03:04 AM.
|
Wow, just wow...... the trailer was trash, and I can't stand any of the scenes, so unrealistic, it's all garbage.
ROFL, I can't even lie about that. I'm really looking forward to the game now, I want to know more than anything wtf happened to Raiden.. now I feel sorry for him, they really fucked him up. Meryl's alive!? holy shit! so they did go with the good ending... or did they?... I still don't like MGS3, ![]() I'd like to see some real time gameplay, I wonder how the camera is going to be like, etc. FELIPE NO ![]() |
can't seem to download anything from GT right now, they might be getting hammered.
What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? ![]() |
Yeah trailer is pretty funny. Hiding in a box then hearing a bastardized version of the MGS theme a-la-nintendo. Funny stuff hehehe.
Jam it back in, in the dark. ![]() |
Spoiler:
It's all from the leaked script. Honest. There's nowhere I can't reach. ![]() |
So what's everyone's take on Raiden now?... you think he's even human anymore? his chin was discolored. His feet are abstract and tripod'ish. It also seems like he can take damage to his body and almost not feel anything. Maybe that Raiden is not the real one?
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. ![]() |
Heh I was looking up what other voices Quinton Flynn had done, and I thought I had heard him in Advent children, but I had the wrong character down. He did Reno, and not Kadaj like I had thought. Though it would've made sense lol.. Kadaj and Raiden look very similar.
I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? ![]() |
I just said that because that's what kadaj reminded me of, and sometimes they pick actors for similar looking characters, it's happened before. (Spike and Mugen)
I was speaking idiomatically. ![]() |
No, I agree with the whole facial expression thing. Smirks aren't expression-heavy, I think what he means is more facial movement, he wants to see realism. Sure these guys are all bad ass and probably are void of expression, but we'll see how it turns out. As long as the game doesn't involve really shitty dialogue and telling snake about what it is to be a soldier (rofl..) and as long as there is no shitty bad guys with retarded names, this will be a winner.
With the setting they've established, it's almost impossible to involve anything corny, but hey, he's Hideo, he'll FIND A WAY. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? ![]() |
Raiden is gonna cut Ocelot's arm off, (again). You heard it here first.
FELIPE NO ![]() |
Spoiler:
What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? ![]() |
! Who's footprints are these!?....... o: .........o: .............o: ..................o: ..........................o: ...............................o: ........................................o: ..............................................o: Rofl... I know this is old news but: "When rumors appeared that Uwe Boll expressed interest in a Metal Gear Solid movie, Hideo Kojima responded in his audioblog HIDECHAN "Absolutely not! I don't know why Uwe Boll is even talking about this kind of thing. We've never talked to him. It's impossible that we'd ever do a movie with him." -Wikipedia on Uwe Boll. I've never seen a film by him, and never will probably, but... was his films as bad as Dungeons and Dragons? Jam it back in, in the dark. ![]()
Last edited by Cel; May 15, 2006 at 07:18 AM.
|