[General Discussion] MMO Design

I've never really had the time or inclination for MMO's but I do enjoy loot grinding games. What I prefer though is getting the occasional bit of decent loot at random whilst playing the game normally, grinding is about the most boring thing ever.

I'd be more inclined to play MMO's if it was possible to enjoy the game and be part of the community without having to either grind for a million hours or be part of some bullshit clan and turn up at specified times for "raids". I don't really see the point of getting all the best gear anyway because once you've spent the hundreds of hours to get a ton of gear, then what? You PvP someone else who's got all the gear and the fight is as evenly matched as two brand new characters going at it. Obviously there are varieties of builds but the internet being what it is, those are common knowledge all too quickly.

It'd be nice to have an MMO where you could do as well being a random healer as carving your way through millions of monsters. What I'd really like is a game where your character morphed into some super powerful being if you played for long enough without grinding.

These things possibly exist already, I've not really looked into it.

Jam it back in, in the dark.