Tattoos where do you stand?

Originally Posted by YOU MAD

Other than the fact that they'll look like shit later?

By the time your skin gets so saggy that your tattoos will warp, nobody's going to want to see you naked anyway. How you'll look when you're old is the most retarded arguement against tattoos ever.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by YOU MAD

Found Shin's tat:

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Behave woman, everyone knows the greatest gay unicorn tattoo of all time is this one:

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My tattoos don't have any huge meaning and I find it slightly ridiculous when you watch that Miami Ink thing and there's all these people wanting a picture of a dolphin to remind them of their dead grandpa or a Celtic cross to remind them of the time they ran over their dog or some shit. If you can't remember your own grandpa without a fucking tattoo staring you in the face then you've got some issues.

I'm also not a fan of tattoos that are directly "From" something, I think it shows a lack of imagination if nothing else and I'd rather express myself through an original piece of artwork than a corporate logo or a character or icon someone else came up with from a game or film or whatever. I mean, there's nothing wrong with drawing inspiration from something you've seen, we all do that all the time and trying to come up with something 100% original would be damn near impossible but to slavishly copy a band's logo or put a picture of a computer game character on your butt or something just smacks of a lack of imagination. Either that or a shitty tattoo artist.

I understand why some people would want a picture of Mario on their arm (To remind them of their cousin who died in a freak turtle related accident of course) but it's not for me.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by bzuka

i like tattoos too but my father even i'm 21 now don't let me do any(

Get one where he can't see it and don't let him see it until after you move out.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I think you're rather projecting your own one-dimensional character onto other people there LeHah. What's to say you can't have something tattooed on to you and talk about it? Hell, I've had some very interesting conversations with total strangers based on their tattoos. And I still don't see what's wrong with getting a tattoo just because it looks nice, rather than for some deep spiritual bullshit reason. For the same reason though I don't think tattoos are for everyone because they just don't suit certain people's looks. I mean, I can't imagine a situation where a guy with his t-shirt tucked into his jogging pants would look right with a tattoo, unless it was one someone else tattooed onto him shortly before flushing his head down the toilet saying something like "Born loser".

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by wvlfpvp

Except for the fact that I have NO tolerance for pain in an extended setting, I'd love to get a tattoo going up my spine that kinda looks like nerves. Fucking terrifying, that.

Getting a tattoo doesn't hurt any worse than sunburn.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by wvlfpvp

I'm pale Welsh/Brit stock. I fucking HATE sunburns.

If you were British you'd be tough enough to take the pain of a tattoo. Your parents must be lying to you about where they come from.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by wvlfpvp

I'm tough enough to take the pain of taking it up the ass. Is that tough enough for you?

I mean, I'm also British enough to be French. The family name can be traced back to THE BOOK.

Ain't no lube for a tattooist's needle.

Your parents told you you were British stock to hide the shame of being French. Anyway, even if your great-grand-folks were tough, it sounds like generations of living in the US has turned your gene stock pussy.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by wvlfpvp

Spit's better than lube mosttimes.

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And also: I think you missed the vital historical information in the "so British I'm French" comment. And I'm only a 3rd generation American. My great grandfather came over at the end of the 1800s.

I didn't miss the historical information, I treated the comment with the same disdain I reserve for every American who says they're Irish or Italian or French or anything other than American. You can call yourself British or French or fucking Zulu if you want to but if your grandparents were born in America, you're American and nothing else. That's how the rest of the world sees you and frankly that's how the passport office and an embassy would see you.

I'll never understand why if you ask pretty much any American what their heritage is they'll never say American and instead list off a bunch of different European nations neither they nor their parents of grandparents ever set foot in but that's a discussion for another thread.

I think more people have tattoos now as it's far more socially acceptable. As LeHah said in his post from the 19th Century, once upon a time tattoos in Western society were the preserve of sailors and the like or even the mark of being a criminal. It wasn't that long ago that getting a tattoo on your lower arms would preclude you from getting a job where your arms were on show, now very few people give a fuck (Over here anyway, one imagines that in the more loopy bible bashing parts of the world the stigma pervades).

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Both confuse me to be honest. I guess it's primarily because people in Europe don't talk about their ethnicity in terms of nations. You'd never hear anyone over here describe themselves as Welsh stock, ever. They'd say they were Welsh, because they or their parents come from Wales (Which would technically make them English as it happens) but other than that, people over here think of themselves far more broadly in terms of ethnicity than Americans do. You're pretty much Scandinavian (Blonde or ginger, pale skin), Northern European (What Wvlf is calling Welsh, Dark hair, pale skin), Eastern European (Dark hair, kinda mongy looking) or Mediteranean (Dark hair, dark skin) or more likely a huge mix of everything. In fact people never refer to their ethnicity at all, the place of one's birth is far more important to people here than where your ancestors may or may not have come from.

I suspect that's mainly to do with the huge amount of emigration that goes on over here, the far wider mix of ethnic backgrounds in general, the much greater mingling of ethnicities here compared to the US, the centuries of wars providing deeply ingrained national hatreds and hilariously fluid borders and the fact that America is a very, very young nation. The concept of being "American" didn't even exist a couple of hundred years ago and one can understand how the religious nuts and criminals who populated the place would have struggled to find a collective identity once ties with Europe were fully broken.

I'm not saying it's wrong, it's just a weird concept for a European (Or at least all the Europeans I ever discussed it with) and even most second generation Indian or Pakistani or Jamaican immigrants here would call themselves British if you asked them. Obviously they know where there families are from but the question "Where are you from" evokes a nationality response here rather than an ethnicity one you'd expect from a Merkin.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Heh, I think another reason for the difference is that perhaps despite of the cultural diversity here but more likely because of it, people will go out of their way not to appear to be an outsider so going around telling everyone you're Irish at a school in the south east of England would just get you picked on, especially Irish what with them all being child murdering terrorist fucks and all.

And it's easy to forget how stupidly huge your country is at times. Compared to the US, Europe is a collection of state-sized nations, all wildly different and all with a long histroy of fighting each other so tribal mentality is always going to come to the forefront. Like I said, I don't think you're wrong to identify yourselves in terms of your ancestors, it's just a bit weird hearing what to us looks like a white, American guy banging on about how he's Italian or Irish or whatever, given that he quite clearly isn't and is in fact just another American in our eyes.

That and being proud of being Irish is the most wrong thing ever.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by wvlfpvp

But white Italians don't look "just white" to me. It's as different from other varieties of white as Japanese are from the other varieties of azn.

But you if you reckon you can tell the difference between an Italian, a Spaniard, a Portugese, a guy from the south of France, a Greek, a Magyar, Turk or perhaps even Morrocan, you're lying or deluding yourself.

And no matter how Italian a guy looks, as soon as he opens his mouth and you hear that American accent, chances are he's an American. No amount of using the word Mamma and eating pasta can hide that.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by YOU MAD

Yeah family crest would be one of the few things I know I wouldn't really regret later in life. Might take a while though.

Wow, that's a pretty sycophantic coat of arms. Castles generally mean solidarity and feathers obedience. The chevron in the middle can also be awarded for faithful service. If that's a genuine coat of arms handed out by the College of Arms, one of your ancestors quite possibly spent a lot of time on his knees. Also, the helmet is the wrong colour, gold helmets are only for royalty but then it'd be facing forward with the visor open. A sideways helmet with the visor shut denotes an esquire, rather than any sort of nobility and should be steel. The white bits of the mantling should be blue too as the mantling should be in the same metal and colour as the body of the arms, in this case gold and blue. You're also missing a wreath around the top of the helmet.

I'm not trying to diss your family crest here, I just think it'd be worth getting it right (Assuming it's a proper College of Arms piece and not just something someone made up once) if you ever seriously thought about getting it permanently etched into your skin.


I'm quite a heraldry nerd, that's what comes from growing up in a town with a Norman castle, surrounded by other towns with Norman castles.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Ha ha ha, I'll pay £20 if someone has this done.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I am actually quite tempted to find a henna tattooist and get it done.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

As I already said, by the time your skin gets saggy enough to affect the appearance of a tattoo, nobody's going to want to see you naked anyway so a mis-shapen tat will be the least of your worries.

FELIPE NO