So about this Florida U student

I'm sorry, but this is bullshit.

Ok, WOW...he asks thought provoking questions, puts a senator on the spot. And he gets silenced and then taken away..AND tasered? All because of questions which is his constitutional right to ask. He should NOT be censored, and he should not have been arrested because of asking questions that might hurt Jon Kerry's or whoever's feelings. Hell, Jon Kerry wasn't even afraid, he said he wanted to answer his question, but police take them away?? I'd like to know if it was the police, or the dean or whoever was in charge of that forum discussion. Maybe whoever was in charge wanted the police to silence him. All in all, it's pathetic...PATHETIC what these Police are doing.


Overall, this is absolute disgust. Between this fascist bullshit and the backward mentality of those morons in Jena louisana who still think it's 1960...I don't know how our country [America] will wake up.

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Originally Posted by LZ

It seems like the kid was intentionally asking a retarded question, so the police were simply trying to move him from the mic at first, not arrest him. The mic had cut off, so it was obvious that his turn was over, but he still wasn't leaving. They tasered him after he repeatedly tried to resist them.

Oh come on, it's not like he asked Kerry "Durrrrrr do you know you look like that dude from the Munsters?!" He had questions he wanted to ask, and the police gestapo take him away because audience members are 'gasping'? >_>. The dude's rights as an american were being trampeled on, and he didn't make a scene at all, until the Police and whoever tried to silence his mic and cut him off...aka censoring. I would sue.

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@CloudNine

Ok, so they were asking him to leave, even though Kerry was going to answer his question. They still forced him out of there because of his questions. It was an open public forum, and just because his questions were more than 30 seconds does not give anyone the right to remove him silence him. That is censorship.

Too many people in politics and in political situations, never say what they want to say and/or ask because they might insult or hurt someone's feelings. I'm tired of that. I'm not saying 'be disrespectful and rude' what I am saying is we need the press or people who question gov't motives or sentaors, mayors, governers, blabla to be free to ask and debate issues without being frowned upon because of feelings being hurt or its something THEY dont want to hear. If those people there were disgusted by his comments, they could have left and/or just ignored him and let him get his schtick out.


And by the video...the event was disrupted when people were trying to silence and remove him. THAT is when it became disruption, not after the fact dude.


And personally, I would sue for infrigment of my rights being violated and for police brutality.


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I can see you are bringing nothing to this discussion, but rather try and insult and belittle me [lol 'kid'] because you don't agree with my view. Why dont stop so we dont have this thread become personal ok? We don't need a flame war, thank you. Bye.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

@Encep

Thats what I was trying to do in the first place, thanks.




@Melomane

Yea, when someone with holds you from speaking your opinion, preventing you from expressing your individuality. The cops and whoever was in charge, clearly was trying to silence him.




@CloudNine

You're making this personal, and I have no desire to battle it out with you, as I can see this entire debate now is "Everyone against Karasu because he's on the kid's side and thinks different like an individual".

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You are right. We definitely need more people like this guy asking the truly hard hitting questions

Your sarcasm and your cuteness are totally uncessary, especially when you didn't read what I said. I said we need people to ask good strong questions and put politicians on the spot without being mocked and laughed at, but we can do it without being rude and disrespectful.


And as for your question, it didn't have true relevance i'll give you that, but...it was a fucking question. Big Deal. Kerry wouldn't have gone into detail about it anyway since it's a secret society.

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Actually, it became disruptive after his refusal to leave the microphone stand and subsequent comments.

And again i'll say it. He wouldn't have been disruptive if he was able to ask his questions and get the answer from Kerry. Good god. Am I the only person here who sees the wrong on the officials part? Obviously I am.




@Jouhou
Yep. Too many cops are trigger happy with those tasers, and these cops are no different in that area. It takes...7....7...cops to handle one college kid? And on top of that they have to taser the guy because they can't handle it. Bad Form.






As I can see though, i'm the lone eagle because I think like an individual and disagree with how these cops and officials handled the situation. It could have been done a lot better. Was the guy obnoxious? Yea I guess. I mean when he was tasered he was saying 'Ow' sarcastically...but hey...has anyone here been tasered? Do you know what it feels like? Probably not. I bet though it feels very painful, and you mock and laugh at him for being tasered? You see enjoyment in his pain? I guess you're a masochist then.


Anyway, i'll receed and let you continue in saying the kid deserved it, blabla. Oh and saying "Lolz good he's gone" or some other snide comment after me leaving shows a ton of immaturity and disrespect on your part. Because you took a debate and turned it into a "I don't agree with you, so i'm going to make this thread now about you and what you say!" Which that's what has happened here. It should have been on the issue, but of course people take one guy's opinion and makes that the focus instead. Bad form, gamingforce. Bad form

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I mean, it's not just that you're wrong. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying things that maybe sound good but they make no sense. But it's that you just keep chuggin' along.

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Ha ha! No. I'm not wrong for seeing this debacle a different way than you buddy. I think like you that both parties were wrong, HOWEVER what the law enforcement officers did was wrong and pretty much stupid. I have explained why, I will not anymore.

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And the guy yelling "fire" in a crowded theater didn't cause the riot, but the people running out of the building did?

What a ridiculous analogy. Yelling fire in a movie theater is illegal, whereas asking questions to a senator no matter how benign it is, is NOT. Learn the difference dude. Don't compare them.



@Cloud

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But as it stands now, stop trying to be a martyr.

Because thats what just frickin' happened. I mean really, because I feel the guy was injustly taken away and feel his constitutional rights were violated, and you all disagree. I debate it, you debate it but turn it into something towards me. I back away and want to stop because we're drifting from the point, and i'm a fucking martyr? I'm not gonna be gang-banged by people because I think different than the majority. Spare me. And i'm not asking for a big wooden cross to hang myself on it, so don't make me out to be that.

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Show me once where I made this personal and made a comment about you

ok:

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you have failed to understand anything that I have said.

= Thinking i'm just some inept fool, who can't interpet the words you say or anyone elses and have no say what so ever in this dicussion because of which. I find that insulting, but THAT'S me.

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You are right. We definitely need more people like this guy asking the truly hard hitting questions that the citizens of the United States of America would truly like to hear answers about from our political leaders. Jesus Christ, I have been waiting for years for someone to finally get up the courage to ask about Kerry and Bush's alleged college secret society misdeeds.

= Your sarcastic wording is insulting I feel.


However you're right...it has no relevance here, but i'm merely replying to your question towards me so don't take what I say to heart or try to debate ok?

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His question was inappropriate and did not necessitate an response. Not to mention that he went on a rant about impeaching Bush and Clinton's impeachment for a "blowjob."

Dude, he wasnt even uip there for five frickin' minutes how was he ranting???
Yea blowjob...its a vulgar word ok...but as Lewis Black said, ''we should be able to use adult words''. It's not like Kerry or any other person in that room hasnt heard that word before. I think they could handle that one word. Maybe that scenario was a setup for his real point before he was taken away?

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Have you ever been tasered, either? If not, you're not in a position to comment any more than anyone else is.

*AHEM* "Probably not. I bet though it feels very painful" <--- Me. That implied I didn't know the feeling, but I was betting it feels very painful. So we pretty much established that dude.

Then I called whoever was 'lolzzz!!" over the fact he was being tasered, a masochist. Yet you say...something not even relevant to what I was talking about regarding my masochist comment...

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Chastising everyone here for something that has not happened?

I know the forum's mentality sometime. If someone said 'I'm leaving, later' during a debate, the other person will leave a comment like "Hah, good riddance loser" or something along those lines. It's predictable.

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What I think is bad form is you taking a debate on two opposing viewpoints of this issue, making it personal and insulting everyone here

Ok, we're done. You can't use my words and flip it around to make it as I'm insulting people and making it personal, because i am not. Using your analogy, I haven't called anyone 'fuck boy' don't try and turn the table, not gonna work buddy.


Look, I can agree with you on the fact he was disruptive...disrespectful, maybe. What I don't agree with is the fact how he wasn't allowed to finish his questions because, and then arrested and tasered for it. I find that wrong, and that was my point. Like someone said earlier both parties are to blame, but I was merely saying how unfair it was for how he was being treated.

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I can see i'm getting nowhere with you because you're a pompous twat, so we agree to disagree then.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Well I've seen two videos of footage regarding the event. And by judging from the videos, the guy was polite in the beginning, but as soon as he asked questions he got heated up, from the subject matter he was discussing, and that was when the officials and police got into it. Perhaps his alloted time expired yes, but he was getting to the point of his questions, when he was cut off, and taken away. I don't agree with that at all. Yes, I agree his time was alotted, but he was probably getting to his major point before being cut off. I feel that the police and the officials definitely could have handled that situation better, instead of taking him away. The only time I felt the student was wrong was when he resisted the arrest, that screwed him over. Either way, something needs to be done about this, because its just pathetic and ridiculous.

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