[Multiplatform] Grand Theft Auto IV. Not as much fun as shooting real Albanians

Originally Posted by Denicalis

I've never understood why these games are popular. Just utter shit.

A perfect 10? My ass.

Let me guess, repetitive game play. Lousy story. And I get to murder hookers. No, by all means, chalk that up a perfect 5 stars. For sure. I'm sure NO ONE got paid for that perfect score.

You people clearly love it, maybe someone here can explain the appeal of this. What the hell about GTA is fun? I'm honestly curious. I've never been able to tolerate more than half an hour of the previous incarnations.

They're not familiar with the Kane and Lynch fiasco. I wouldn't bother with it, really. You're probably arguing against the people that said that Halo 3 was better than Halo 2, which was better than Halo 1, which all deserved a 12/10 or something for absolute perfection, blah blah blah. Based on the series being popular, someone will give it a ten. Others will be afraid to rate it otherwise, assuming they'll lose their jobs as well. You know already what the game offers by comparison to the others in the series and you already know what sort of "rating" it deserves in comparison to other titles.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

You called me out on it. I'm secretly upset about a PC version of a game in a series that I haven't played since the second one. I played a few minutes of the third one, didn't like it because the premise was the same and the content wasn't really appealing for repeating. Gosh, you called me out on that one, alright. Or perhaps I was trying to let people know how useless reviews are when in terms of numbers. I made a reference to the incident (you don't seem to be familiar) where a reviewer was fired after giving Kane and Lynch a poor review while they were encouraged to hype the game and give it high marks. I'm saying that if you want to score a title, go by the progression made between titles and judge it based on what it does differently. I'm viewing it in terms of what a customer would ask me what is new. I'd tell them that it has more of an open world and also features a multiplayer addition. I don't tell the customer that I give it a 9.8 based on this or that.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Iwata

Then if you have no interest in the series, why do you feel you must be a fuckwit and add more meaningless drivel to the thread and further derail it from it's intended target of discussing GTAIV?

Sorry, I thought discussing the review's score for GTA4 was somehow related to the discussion for GTA4.

Originally Posted by Iwata

I know all about Gerstmann gate but it has no bearing on this thread or discussion whatsoever and trying to explain it while bringing up Halo 3 along with it shows you're just being a jackass.

The point that I made was in regards to numbers being shit and that everyone should lay off it. I made the reference to Halo as some people figure "hey, popular series, the next one must be better than the last" while its pretty obvious that Halo 3 was better than 2. So, just in case it takes a second say: Everyone shut the hell up about the score. The only people who care are those who want to give it a 50 out of 10 or the people who want to give it a -50 out of 10. Either way, same result: the 50s will play it, the -50s won't. That's it.

Originally Posted by Iwata

If you haven't played the game or have no intention of doing so, how in the fuck can you think you know the differences between this game and the past versions?

I read to see what major differences there are. Adding multiplayer is a significant difference, but from what I read, it doesn't seem to be appealing enough for me to want to play it. Key word: ME. The premise of robbing, killing, stealing, and whatnot is still the same. Are you then not allowed to say if its any good because you haven't played it though? No, you can gather plenty by the text, screenshots, and videos. You then make a decision on your own as to whether or not the core changes are appealing.

Originally Posted by Iwata

Yes, we all know the majority of reviews are generally wrong, but at least the reviewer can be given the benefit of the doubt because they actually played the fuckin game before passing judgement unlike certain people in this thread.

Did I say it sucks? Did I say that it lacks? You can tell a good amount about a game before it comes out. The progression of difficulty, replay value, or online stability are just a few things that really can't be ascertained from preliminary impressions, but you can get a decent idea of what it is. This is why people can pre-order a game. You can tell enough if you think it looks interesting.

Would you prefer I go to someone's house and play it Tuesday morning, then come back and give a detailed description as to why I don't like it? I'd give a mixed confirmation of my opinion of the title as well as how it compares to other similar or new games (such categories as sound quality, graphical quality, voice acting, controls, story development).

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by sprouticus

Anybody going to any midnight launches? My shitty Best Buy isn't doing one, and I'm not sure if my Wal-Mart is or not, but I'm going to look around. I'm sure GameStop is, but they have a strict "if you didn't reserve the game, you're shit out of luck, because hey that's really fucking smart business" policy.

Yeah we're doing a midnight release and I'll be working (laaaame), but you know, when a store has 300 reserves and is incredibly busy, they use that to their advantage to get the pre-orders as that's $5 they get. The stores will (should) all have extras, they just want to make sure you're a guaranteed sale in advance. For a $billion+ company, they do alright.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Monkey King

Is my area just wierd? Game supply has never been an issue for me, while I'm hearing about how the rest of the country is sold out left and right. I walked into Target yesterday afternoon and picked up a copy out of the 10 or so they still had in the case, no fuss at all.

I notice everyone keeps talking about the game stores being sold out; maybe the trick is to hit the less-obvious retail stores instead?

When I closed last night, we had a good 30-40 copies for each system, plus another 10 or so CE for each...and that's aside from the 250 pre-orders or so. Plenty in stock in all of the stores in our district. *shrug*

I was speaking idiomatically.