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Gordian Knot: Encoding
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Old Aug 12, 2006, 03:10 AM Local time: Aug 12, 2006, 03:10 AM #1 of 22
Gordian Knot: Encoding

Ugh...still having 2 problems with Gordian Knot while trying to encode:



All the "movement" has these horizontal lines. I see it once I have the d2v file. I'm told that I might fix it after it encodes...apparently that's the only way to see if it's fixed.

Second, my files are like 300MB. And they're not even 640x480 resolution. I'm seeing wonderful quality MKVs all over at 150-200MB with better resolution and no horizontal line garbage. What gives? :\

The doom9 people basically said "Mess around with your different encoding settings until it works" and "Well, better quality means bigger files." Trust me, if you saw the 150MB copy of the show, you could hardly see it without zooming...

Thanks in advance, Gaminglol

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Old Aug 12, 2006, 11:27 AM Local time: Aug 12, 2006, 11:27 AM #2 of 22
Hrmm. I'll check into that...but would you care to share the name(s) of software you use?

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Old Aug 12, 2006, 03:10 PM Local time: Aug 12, 2006, 03:10 PM #3 of 22
I was using x264 though... :\ I'll give MeGUI a try.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 02:29 AM Local time: Aug 13, 2006, 02:29 AM #4 of 22
Well I gave it a shot. I've got the size down to 220MB...but the quality is crap. On top of that, it seems my subtitles didn't add to it..and it added TWO copies of the audio tracks.

I'll recopy the VOBs with DVD Decrypter and give it another shot, AVS and D2V and all through MeGUI. :\

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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:24 PM Local time: Aug 13, 2006, 04:24 PM #5 of 22
So very close.....for some reason, MeGUI isn't installing my subtitles that I'm trying to add. It encoded the audio and video just fine and claims to have added the subtitles...but in MPC's or in VobSub's options....enabling the subtitles doesn't seem to help.

Got a suggestion for another way to mux the subtitles? :\ So close.

EDIT: Nevermind..it seems SubRip opens the VOB and only is reading the theme's text....but when I add it to the video, MPC and VobSub are both showing the subtitles....no mention of the subs in the rest of the show (This is anime I'm trying to encode)

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Aug 13, 2006, 08:15 PM Local time: Aug 13, 2006, 08:15 PM #6 of 22
I'll try mkvtoolnix...but I know I got the subs to work once before.

(I have the working one...with crap quality...and the nice quality....with no subs)

I'll post a download link tonight if you want to see what quality I'm getting out of the DVD rips.

Just a FYI, too, this first DVD I'm testing proves to be special:
Progressive Sections: 4
Interlaced Sections: 5
Partially Static Sections: 112
Film Sections: 30
Source is declared hybrid film/ntsc. Majority is film.
Source is declared tff by a margin of 29 to 0.

EDIT: Using x264 on MKVs.

Double Post:
Ahh, yeah, forgot about mkvmerge. Gracias!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Aug 14, 2006, 08:29 AM Local time: Aug 14, 2006, 08:29 AM #7 of 22
Originally Posted by Dayvon
If the source is "film" you might try to force film mode in DGIndex, and see if that helps with the DeInterlacing. Also, if you have to deinterlace, you will get poorer quality and slower encode times.

You are selecting vobsub file to import into the MKV via MeGUI?
Yes, but VobSub only does one format. SubRip, however, can do conversions.

I was able to fix it last night with mkvmerge. I always had the "Force Film at 95%" checked for encoding, but it never seemed to work. It looks like when I try to make the AVS script in GKnot, I'm foobared. Any clue how to take care of this in GKnot?

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Old Aug 14, 2006, 11:09 PM Local time: Aug 14, 2006, 11:09 PM #8 of 22
I don't recall any mention of interlacing in DGIndex. I mean, I check "forced film" but it flips between Interlaced and film (see post 12) during playback.

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Old Aug 15, 2006, 12:51 PM Local time: Aug 15, 2006, 12:51 PM #9 of 22
Originally Posted by Krizzzopolis
If your source is vfr (variable frame rate) you may wish to try Real Anime.

When source is detected as hybrid, most software will determine which framerate is more prevalent. And using force film in DGIndex will cause choppy motion in interlaced scenes.

Real Anime can retain all framerates from your source, and output into a vfr mkv.

Obviously, also handles de-interlacing. meGUI and Real Anime are pretty much the top two GUIs for x264 on www.doom9.org right now, you may want to give it a try.
You are my Jesus. I'll give this a whirl tonight to see if it works, too. The fewer different apps and steps it takes, the better. I appreciate this rather interesting link that yet again, the people of doom9 have failed to mention!

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