Revolution or Evolution?

Originally Posted by Elixir

Wait, what?

acheived? What the hell. Dr. Mario is indeed a game, and is indeed a Tetris clone with Mario in it. I couldn't think of the title but there it is.

You don't seem to understand the simple fact that Mario has his own game in almost every genre, and that's bad. And you're trying to go ahead and tell me that Snake in another game, or Dante in another game, makes them equally as bad? That doesn't make much sense now, does it?

But you said for yourself that it sells. You said its popular and that it works. We LIKE Mario. Surely using his face isn't what sells it all that much but the fact that "Hey cool, there's a gameplay style I like that happens to use the most popular video game character!"

Originally Posted by Elixir

[@ grubdog]I mentioned it because the game was huge and everlasting. The DS remake was nothing special, but the 64 game was incredible. Of course we were impressed by the graphics and Mario being in 3D and everything, but the level design and ingenuity was what I found most attractive about the game.

And the ports of games to the PSP are okay, though, because its not Nintendo?

Originally Posted by Grubdog

Have you played it? You can't stop time, fill the court with water and then swim to the ball in any other tennis game.

Oh Lord you win...ooooooooooh man I love you.

Elixer....don't post so much. You're letting plenty of good fanboy/hate fodder get by. We can only quote and disprove so much!

So at this point we have from him:

-Mario needs to be in ORIGINAL Mario games only
-Mario sucks in any non-original game (despite profits, reviews, or gameplay)
-Said games with Mario (Tennis, Kart, etc.) suck since they are not "real"
-Franchises are okay, unless its Nintendo

Please let me know if I missed anything REALLY important

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

BTW, I've heard there are something like 90 Megaman games. Is that true?

Counting multiplatform, I doubt it. I could believe 40 or 50, but not that many. It would be nice to know the top5 or whatever for any franchise.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

Yes it would, but there was a chart on GAF recently that had Mario and his various games taking up the first 5 spots on the top ten best selling games. Either way, at least Mario's changed what he does in the games, while ole Mega's been stuck in a rut for a while now.

I heard in the new MegaMan game, he steals powers from baddies. True story.

I've enjoyed MegaMan though. Despite its the same thing all the time, the powers and levels have always been (or at least on the NES ) fun to navigate and find energy tanks and such.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Elixir

I remember, and I quote, "If Nintendo spent more time with their franchising as they did with their Mario titles, we'd have a proper Mario game by now." And I stand by this, because aside from Mario 64 I have not seen a proper sequel.

I thought you were badmouthing the many Mario games. Regardless, check out the "New Mario Game" thread in the Warp Room. Its got screenies and everything. Original Mario right there.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Elixir

One game says alot. I'm sure I could think of more examples, such as the Pikachu 64DD shit they concucted up like, years ago. That was reeeeal necessary.

So I can base a console or a company on just one game? Can I base the PS2 on a game like Extermination?

Originally Posted by Elixir

Yeah, Tamigotchi was real popular. Except it isn't an original Nintendo product, it's a stolen idea and it's basically the same as the Tamigotchis. Sure, you have puppies, they never die, and you can virtually touch them, but it's nothing more than a gimmick that appeals to both sexes. It also isn't a game.

But this is very different. Or can we claim that Atari "invented" racing games and everyone else is copying them with their Gran Turismo?

Originally Posted by Elixir

I can see it now. "Super Smash Bros Revolution."

So can we. Thanks for the anticipation.

Originally Posted by Elixir

But it isn't for the Revolution, and that's what we're talking about. It isn't a console Mario title which will follow from Mario 2, 3, World, Mario 64, Sunshine and Wind Waker. I don't think it counts in that department.

Aww shit, I thought it was a handheld console. What is it? A handheld thinger-majig?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Elixir

Outside of japan, how many "Train a ____, level a _____, grow a _____" games do you see? Of course there's Pokemon which is by Nintendo, and of course RPGs don't count. So, how many pet levelling/training simulators are on the PS2 and xbox? Not many, if any. If there ARE any, they're probably still inside japan.

Your problem is that you keep trying to make exceptions where other consoles are just as "guilty." You say that Nintendogs is recycling an old idea. Hey, guess what, PEOPLE LIKE IT! I don't understand why you're trash-talking a successful product.

In that case, Halo 2 just uses the characters and weapons and stuff from the first one...and umm, makes things a little different!

^Yes, yes it does. And you know what, some people like it. Thus, making more of it. Franchises like Mario are profitable. The more of it, the more money. I don't see the problem.

Off to work I go.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?