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Old Jul 23, 2008, 07:51 PM Local time: Jul 23, 2008, 06:51 PM #1 of 190
The bible, too, calls for the massacre of infidels.
Could you provide a specific reference for this claim? I'd like to know what book, chapter, and verse "calls for the massacre of infidels."

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Old Jul 24, 2008, 02:23 PM Local time: Jul 24, 2008, 01:23 PM #2 of 190
I think this is what he was talking about:

Gal 2:15 - Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Thus, the old school way of doing business that Sass pointed out in Deuteronomy doesn't really apply. Otherwise, we'd still be doing animal sacrifice and stuff.

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Old Jul 25, 2008, 10:25 AM Local time: Jul 25, 2008, 09:25 AM 1 #3 of 190
Pang, you're so silly!

And example of the law "fulfilled."

The Law:

Deuteronomy 19:21 - "And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot."

Fulfilled:

Matthew 5:38-42 - "You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you."

Sounds like he changed it from "kill the killers!" to "kill em with kindness!"

Also,

Hunting: The legal tracking and killing of a wild animal for the sake of food, taxidermy trophy/art, recreation, or trade.

Animal sacrifice: The ritualistic slaughter of a domesticated animal in a religious ceremony, often for the atonement of sins.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jul 26, 2008, 12:49 AM Local time: Jul 25, 2008, 11:49 PM #4 of 190
So I cruised over to Dictionary.com and looked up "fulfill."

"4. to bring to an end; finish or complete, as a period of time: He felt that life was over when one had fulfilled his threescore years and ten."

Perhaps Christ means that by fulfilling the old law, he brings it to an end, not that he carries it out. Any Greek scholars in the crowd wanna give us insight on the translation of the word "fulfill" as it is used in Matthew 5?

Wow... so you consider "sacrificing" a wild animal for the sake of food, taxidermy trophy/art, recreation, or trade, completely pointless?

What was this thread about again? If I run into Abraham, I'm gonna kick him in the balls for all the trouble he's started.

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Old Jul 26, 2008, 01:16 AM Local time: Jul 26, 2008, 12:16 AM #5 of 190
Like you said earlier, it's a "hair-splitting linguistic distinction" that might be more clear if we knew the original language. Perhaps he's saying something to the effect of: "I haven't come to discredit the teachings of the prophets, but to bring their age to an end."

Could you show me where you're getting your definition for "sport hunting?" Many (perhaps most) people who hunt for sport actually eat what they kill cause they like wild game. You might be confusing sport hunting with poaching.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jul 26, 2008, 01:49 AM Local time: Jul 26, 2008, 12:49 AM #6 of 190
Practical is a bit of a relative term. Tracking and killing a wild animal and then removing and stuffing it's head or entire body to be put on display as an art piece...wait a sec, why the fuck are we even talking about this shit in here? Where the hell did Janus X go? The thread should be re-titled: islam, the religion of love, interpretations of the fulfillment of Judaic law, and the practicality of taxidermy.

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