[Movie] The Prestige

Originally Posted by sprouticus

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Is Bale's twin actually a twin brother or was he cloned by Tesla?

That's what I'm guessing.

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I'm thinking that Borden was so poor starting off cause he saved up all his cash to get Tesla to make him a clone. I'm assuming it based off a few things, but primarily when he talks to Angier's double about doubles having control. In Borden's case, his double is actually him, so he doesn't have to worry as much about betrayal as they're the same person, united in the same goal. That's also where Angier's character has turned evil in that he kills all his clones.

Telsa is definitely the real magician of the flick.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Dr. Uzuki

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How could Bale have a clone? Tesla had no idea what the machine was doing until Jackman's character stumbled upon the hats and cats and that came long after Bale started his transfered man trick. It was his twin.

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Then why was the secret key word to Borden's diary TESLA? That, combined with the speech about the double hinted at the idea that Borden had a clone. The difference was that he was more human in that he cared about the well being of his clone unlike Angier. His emotional attachment was what made him the hero and ultimately the better magician. The process that Tesla performed for Borden could've been different. Tesla seemed to know exactly what Angier was looking for when he approached him. He might've just had some kinks to work out with building a new machine. Remember he said that "exact science is not really exact" or something to that effect. He was creating an electric cloning machine at the end of the 19th century!!! You'd expect it to have some unpredictable results as well as moral conflict.

Has anybody read the book? Perhaps it's more clear about the issue.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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Or he might just have been inspired by the old Chinese guy to make a double for himself, and live as the same person. Also, why would he send Angier halfway around the world to Tesla, only to find out that he acutally had a way to create doubles for himself? The key to his notebook could've just as easily been Lima, and he could've sent him to Peru or some other random ass place to find nothing and throw him off. I don't think that sending him to Tesla (and the fact that Tesla didn't even have to ask specifically why he was there) and then Tesla happening to actually be able to create a cloning machine was a lucky coincidence. The only clue that blatently references the idea that it was his brother was when Borden does the trick where he makes the bird disappear and the little kid starts crying. He makes a bird re-appear, but the kid still cries, "but where's his brother?"

Either way, it's got me excited to watch it again and try to break it down a little further.

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Originally Posted by uacoop

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Also, for the person who talked about Angier having a lack of compassion for his clones, or whatever, I don't think that really was the case. I think he fully viewed it as killing himself, not other clones, which he wouldn't have to care about. But of course, he didn't mind either, since Cain's character had told him that the sailor felt "like he was going home" when he was drowning; and in addition, he was consumed with his anger and spite towards Bale's character.

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Yeah, that's true. I think I was basing that assumption off of Borden's statement of something to the effect of "You did terrible things" in reference to killing the clones. But yeah, I can see where you're coming from. Also, he might have been drowning them as a twisted means of self torture since that was how his wife died.

Damn this movie just rocks my face off. I've gotta go see it again soon.

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