Why are people offended by the term "Islamic fascists"?

Originally Posted by a lurker

Nationalism can be applied to religions since when?

Since nationalism is based on a unity of culture, and in this case religion is key to the culture.

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Originally Posted by a lurker

You feel that islamic states have a unified culture?

No they don't. I'm taking it that you are aware that nationalism exists outside the idea of the state.

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Originally Posted by Rock

Can you give examples for that?

Sure no prob.

First lets define some terms here, just so that everybody is on the same page.

Nationalism: Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.
The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals.
Aspirations for national independence in a country under foreign domination.

In this instance, nations are not considered to be states in the formal sense. Rather, they are merely large groups of people with cultural similarities. A state would be defined as a sovereign political group with established definite geographical boarders.

For example: The Kurds. They don't have their own state, yet they have a nationalist movement. The Kurds have a unified culture, but they are spread out as a people across many states.

Another example could be the nations within the UK. Within the UK you have the nationalist movement of Catholics in Nothern Ireland. In this instance the Irish Catholics are considered to be a nation of people.

A final example could even be Quebec where there is a nationalist movement to separate from the rest of Canada.

Of course there is the idea of a nation-state where a state with recognized boarders has a unified culture. Within nation states, those that are outsiders or ethnic minorities are scrutinized and even killed at times.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Rock

Your examples all have one thing in common: The interest of certain cultures or movements to build their own nation.

They already are a "nation" what they don't have is a formally recognized independent state with finite borders.

The entire point of my post was to show the difference between nations and states because both terms have been loosely thrown around and used interchangeably when they are actually different ideas.

As for whatever an Islamic fascist is?... My guess is a totalitarian muslim who is hell bent on the glorification of his state, or perhaps nation-state if he lives in one.

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Originally Posted by Lord Styphon

But scorched earth fighting, concentration camps and wholesale massacre aren't as popular these days, what with media everywhere.

Are you suggesting that media influence has forced us to fight a war in a politically correct style?

I was speaking idiomatically.