I'll have a dish of pretty, please.

Yeah, I'm one of those girls who just hops out of bed and wears no make-up. People other than single men have told me that I'm hot, but most of my male friends seem to go for girls that dress up (even if it's just once a week). Sadly, many of these girls are the same girls that use their boyfriends as psychologists and use lines such as, "Does this skirt make my butt look big" and "OMG! I totally broke my nail! You think she's prettier than me don't you?!"

People tell me all the time I should dress up more often. The reason I don't is b/c every time I do dress up, no one compliments me or even notices that I dressed up. Then a couple of weeks later they will tell me that if I were to try dressing up for once then everyone would notice.

Frankly, I have friends that are prettier and uglier, thinner and fatter, richer and poorer than me who are in long relationships/marriage. A girl from China was telling me how the men in America seem to think that personalities are more important than looks in comparison to her country. According to her, looks are high on the Chinese male radar and if you are attractive there then that's all you need.

Unless I can find clear-cut facts that men will only date women that wear make-up and dress up, then I'm just going to be me so I won't be guilty of false adveretising. There is nothing wrong with dressing up or wearing make-up, but only if you do it for yourself rather than using it as a crutch in order to get laid.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Kazyl

Hallelujah! :waves hand sporadically in the air:

Yes! Someone who agrees .

Originally Posted by Hydelloon

katiblue - Guys go through some of the same physical standard as girls. I'm sure many of you have seen pictures of me. I am not the definitely of a male model. I definitely do not possess an athlete's or model's body. Its why so many guys drink protein shakes and work out like crazy. There was a point in time when I would work out all the time for that reason but to be honest, it didnt make me feel better.

It wasnt until I started getting used to my body that I felt good about how I looked.

I agree. Granted, it's more acceptable in the media for overweight or scrawny men to be on televisioin than for overweight women to be on television (at least, in sitcoms they are), but the media misinterpreted what many speakers have been saying about the unhealthy portrayal of women. Instead of relaxing their stance on how women are suppose to look, they are now beginning to place more stress on masculine looks.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Cetra

My personal experiences have come to show me that if a girl is willing to take the time to pretty herself up, she is also likely to take the time to take care of herself. That is, she is likely to also go to the gym to keep herself looking good, eats correctly to keep herself looking healthy and practices a high level of personal hygiene. When I'm out looking to meet women, I tend to look for this type of girl for this exact reason. I, like most men are well aware they may not look as pretty the following morning, but that isn't the entire point. They are looking for certain qualities in a woman and it isn't necessarily because they are shallow men that can't look past outer beauty.

There are of course women who take this to an extreme and just cake on the makeup on or attempt to take other shortcuts to looking good. This is usually pretty obvious to a lot of guys and these are usually the type people think of as being overly supercilious. This is also usually the type of women people think of when talking about taking too much time to get ready to go out. But I've meet a large amount of women that do take a lot of time to get ready and care greatly about their public appearances. These women are also intelligent, caring, hardworking and nothing like the stereotype.

Oh and everything I've commented on goes for men as well. A guy that comes to school/work looking like a slob is usually a lazy slob.

I do agree with what you are saying, but that is not normally the case from my personal experience. I know women who forbid to wear makeup and some of them shower 1-3 times a day, even though the one that showered 3 times a day was told to stop b/c it causes the bad bacteria to grow back faster than the good bacteria. Some of them believe that makeup will clog their pores and cause them to have a lot of breakouts, so they prefer their natural beauty. However, I do know a couple of girls that do dress up quite often but wait 4-5 days before they take a shower (they are college girls, so I guess classes and social outings keep them busy). They use perfumes and ponytails to hide the fact from everyone, especially their boyfriends.

It can be a good way to judge whether or not someone takes care of themselves, but it's not the most accurate way. However, you do bring up a very interesting point, Certa. Very interesting indeed.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.