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I just have a hard time believing some Irish guys should "accidentally" come across a device that taps zero-point energy. I presume that is what it must be doing since other than extracting it from the very fabric of space-time itself, you can't "make" energy.

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Listen to you guys; so gullible. Do the names Fleischman and Pons mean anything to you? Perhaps you're not old enough to remember all the bullshit surrounding the amazing discovery of cold-fusion many years ago. It was tested plenty of times with mixed results. The point is, they had the best of intentions but were too naive and not thorough enough to realise that their experiments, which seemed perfect at the time, were inherently flawed.

Just don't get your hopes up.

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I remember seeing this a few years ago in another GFF thread, by another impressionable, under-educated teen. "Genesis World Energy" told us all how they would revolutionise global energy systems, causing a massive change in the way we lived, using a strange type of hydrogen extraction system about the size of a common washing machine. Somehow this device required no power to do this job, or to be more precise, used energy it created itself to perform the extraction. This gas could then be used to fuel anything. In the case of Genesis World Energy, they were clearly riding on the hype behind the very real advent of fuel-cells, no doubt to make their own "invention" sound legitimate.

As it turned out, it was bullshit. I bookmarked their slick website all those years ago, and just now for the first time in forever I checked it. Their website is gone, and the website of an individual monitoring their activities came up with this:
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There's another thread somewhere on GFF where we have been discussing the nature of matter. Matter and energy are made of the same "stuff". All matter and energy that ever existed or ever will exist was created at the creation of the Universe itself. Think of it in the same way as water on the Earth. There may occasionally seem like shortages of water around the world, but in basic terms the total amount of water on the Earth remains constant (except for marginal atmospheric losses), it is just how it is distributed that has such a great effect on society and nature. We cannot run out of water, ever.

I'm sure there are several organisations champing at the bit to debunk this Stargate SG-1-style prop, it'll just take a while before they can get their hands on it I suppose. Conducting impartial and accurate scientific analyses takes a lot of planning and rounding up the right people.

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Lol, Einstein's work was ALL about energy, was it not? That's pretty hilarious. The beauty of his work is that it is testable, provable, and very real. This is why String Theorists struggle, they can't test jack shit even if they wanted to, as opposed to the Loop Quantum Gravity guys who base their work in an Einsteinian framework and so may, someday, have something to work with.

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It's called "calling one's bluff". Advertising costs a lot of money. Even if the product was debunked, the attention the company would get - as a bunch of radicals intent on pioneering weird and interesting technology, would be very valuable to them. If they challenge people to come to them, it makes people like us think about the company and talk about them a lot, their motivations, their other products, everything. We analyse who they are and in so doing acquire a fuller understanding of what they do and what service/products they provide.

For them, that alone could be considered a victory. Now, this device of theirs looks like it utilises gyroscopes in some way. Gyroscopes are known to have superficially baffling properties. It could just be an elaborate trick, since no company with half-decent engineers would believe that a machine could "create" energy... unless those very engineers had worked hard on manufacturing a hoax, in which case it would stand up to scrutiny for a while.

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I brought up the situation of cold-fusion not because it was a great disaster but because it showed that scientists with the best of intentions and the purest of hearts can still make mistakes. There is a saying, that goes along the lines of "Don't count your chickens until they hatch." I think it would be great for the world if these guys were successful. We need to find a clean source of energy more than anything these days, to help ensure our survival as a race. The scientific community wants this so badly that it may be seeing something that isn't really there, in the same way that if there's someone in your life you really miss, you may start to see them all over the place.

Einstein made mistakes too, you know. Noone holds it against him. All of science is based on probabilities. Yeah, there's a tiny chance that if you, let's say, drop an apple, it'll shoot out into space at 7 miles per second. It's just not likely. It's also unlikely for there to be crock of gold at the end of the rainbow.

People who are all into "new" physics are desperately trying to find workable new laws and modifications to incorporate their theories into the same framework as established ones. The trouble is, existing laws are very robust. Einstein knew what he was talking about. He even predicted Dark Energy a long time before it became a fashionable field of research like it is today.

If this device DOES somehow work, it will be due to a subtle as yet unknown effect that does not break any existing laws apart, but perhaps lies beneath them. Energy can't be created or destroyed; if these people are correct, they must be pulling energy from somewhere else. The crux of this problem would be where that "somewhere" is.

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