New Wii info

That deal would almost be worth it for me, since I have a crapload of cheap PS2 and Xbox games (which I paid $2-$5 for each) and have absolutely no desire to play anymore and wouldn't sell for crap anywhere else. Except you have to trade in your system along with it? That sucks...badly. Why not just sell the PS2 for half the price of what the Wii will be and pony up the rest of the money? It would make sense if you can trade in your Gamecube for this deal, since it will be totally and utterly useless once the Wii is out and can play all the games the Gamecube can and more (minus a few minor things like the Gameboy player).

Jam it back in, in the dark.

More Wii news...unfortunately it's very bad news this time:

http://wii.ign.com/articles/728/728041p1.html

Quote:

IGN has separately learned from multiple development sources that Nintendo will not release Wii Wi-Fi Connection libraries to third parties until early 2007, which means that no third party launch title will have an online mode.

So basically...no online games until mid-to-late 2007 (at least from third parties). This also means no online Red Steel, Call of Duty 3, and probably even Crystal Chronicles. Disappointing...to say the very least.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by NES Oldskooler

Can you even name five 3rd party games that will be released before early 2007 that would even be worthwhile in online play?

Well I named 3 in my original post, and the article linked to a Tony Hawk Downhill Jam article, so...

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Even though it was capable of online play out of the box, the DS had to wait a lot longer than just a few months before it got any online games. Who is even buying a Wii for anything online aside from Smash Bros, anyway?

How many handhelds are known for their online play? It isn't like online is just some minor feature that's just NOW being added to consoles. And the best online games I played were third party games...I honestly wouldn't give a crap about online Nintendo games on the Wii if games such as Call of Duty 3, Tokyo Xtreme Racer 4, or even Monster Hunter (god I sunk a lot of hours into that game) were online for the system.

Honestly, I'm still hoping this is just some kind of misunderstanding between IGN and the developers they talked to. It's just inconcievable that a new console wouldn't have any online third party games at launch when that console is coming out a year after the Xbox 360. I mean really...the PS2 Call of Duty games had online play, but Call of Duty 3 on the Wii won't? Whyyyyyyyyyyy?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by PsychoJosh

What's this "half-a-year" crap? By the time the Wii launches there'll only be 2-3 months remaining in the year, and "early 2007" could be as soon as January for all you know. It's not so far off

Uhh, yeah, and what about the development time for the games? Online modes won't magically appear the second Nintendo gives them the wifi libraries, they actually have to use them to DEVELOP an online mode first. I think we'd be lucky to see online third party games half a year after the Wii launches, it's probably going to end up being substantially longer than that.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Wow, that "document" is so fake. Sounds like mindless fanboy drivel, right down to the poorly thought out arguments and grammar/spelling issues. I like how he didn't even change the (already stupid looking) paper wrinkle pattern for each page.

Originally Posted by PsychoJosh

Uh, they'd already be developing them and have them completed as soon as the start of next year? They DID say "early 2007", after all... I doubt very much that they meant anything past Q1.

Great, except how are they going to develop the online features without the online libraries? And the only people that said "early 2007" were the developers that (supposedly) talked to IGN about when Nintendo would be releasing the Wifi development tools to third parties. Nintendo has made no statements as to when online games will be available for the console.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by avanent

Oh I have. I've looked up both Blu-Ray and HD DVDs. And Niether of them are worth the money. Movies arn't filmed on HD Film, and they wont be any time soon. Until they are, theres no point in buying HD DVDs nor BluRay, as they are barely any improvement over normal DVDs. Maybe you should go look it up.

Uhh, that's because films aren't in a digital format, and the analog format they're filmed in is far higher detail than "HD" formats are in. Scaling a movie down to HD video is still going to offer a substantial improvement over scaling it down to SD video.

Originally Posted by Zip

Superman Returns was filmed in pure HD.

Star Wars Episode 3 as well. And any CG films are going to be natively in a high resolution format (probably higher than even HD video is).

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by avanent

You'll be able to play it with the wiimote or the gamecube controller I believe.

I think it was confirmed that the Wii version would have Wii controller-only controls without an option for using a Gamecube controller.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by JazzFlight

Ugh, those games are just going to be on the Sega Genesis Collection (except for TJ&E).

And that thing's supposed to be like, 20 bucks or so. Plus, you get a whole shitload of other games with it, including Phantasy Star II, III, and IV.

Why play Genesis on Wii if you can buy the whole shebang for 20 bucks on PS2?

The Virtual Console just seems to be for people that want a specific game or want to play an old game in a specific series. It's pretty useless as a "general" classic game player since buying a large amount of individual games will probably be pretty expensive compared to buying a collection of them in a single pack. Especially with the Sonic games...they've already had two Sonic compilation packs on the Gamecube (which of course the Wii is backwards compatible with), so why would anyone that's interested in the series download it for the VC when for $40 you can have EVERY game in the series from before Adventure? Although Sonic CD, Sonic R, and Sonic Fighters probably wouldn't be on the VC anyway.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

The whole point of the console is to establish and explore gaming with a new interface device. Again, the ports are there for backwards compatibility purposes, not as a cop-out for lazy developers.

It doesn't reflect well on the machine if half of the third party developers are working on it with half their foot out the door.

You can't expect every game idea to work perfectly with the controller. It doesn't automatically work for every type of game, so for some the option to use the Gamecube controller is very welcome. I think it would honestly suck if every company started changing their games so that they could exploit the controller to it's fullest instead of focusing on making the game first. The hardware should compliment the games, not the other way around.

Originally Posted by speculative

How 'bout strapping a controller to each foot, then hold one in each hand, and actually kick/punch/jump/duck/block etc. to control your character. How awesome would that be? Any kind of game could work with the Wiimote; it just requires a paradigm shift...

Uhh, yeah, any kind of game COULD work on the controller. They just might suck on it. Hence the reason for the option to use a Gamecube controller for certain games.

Jam it back in, in the dark.