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Old Jun 19, 2006, 04:33 PM Local time: Jun 19, 2006, 02:33 PM #1 of 215
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The time of sympathy toward slavery has long passed. Blacks just like any other race have equal rights now, so there are no longer excuses.
You do not understand the historic context of racism, or socio-economic cost of slavery on the population that was enslaved, nor the cascading factor of political discrimination and poverty over the generations and the fact that such discrimination still exists.

Because so much has been dependent upon the ability of certain groups to intergrade into the "main stream society", in which certain minority groups has never been able to accomplish, not because unwillingness or lack effort, but because it was never been acceptable in the public sphere.

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Old Jun 19, 2006, 11:32 PM Local time: Jun 19, 2006, 09:32 PM #2 of 215
Originally Posted by knkwzrd
I don't think you can realistically assume this. The master will always feel superior to the slave. The fact is, they found a whole shitload of people that they could take advantage of, and they did it. If Africans had white skin, it wouldn't have made the slightest difference.
Well, historically, the effort to differentiate the black slave came later. So one could say the modern understanding of the race differences is rather a result of the use of skin color as a marker in which to keep specific group under control, rather then the other way around. Although not all anthropologist would agree with that assertion. Others believe the root of this concept come earlier.

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Old Jun 20, 2006, 12:10 AM Local time: Jun 19, 2006, 10:10 PM #3 of 215
Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

If we are talking about a college course for a history major, maybe a little more knowledge would be called for.

I was under the impression we were just talking about basic American history.
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Old Jun 20, 2006, 12:39 AM Local time: Jun 19, 2006, 10:39 PM #4 of 215
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The current emphasis put on native american history, government, culture, etc, is not called for in current American history curriculum.

Not everything is black and white, all or nothing.
I personally believe that knowledge of the Native American history and culture is vital to understanding of later conflicts between them and European settlers, which persisted for a very long time even after the Union has been established.

Its easy to frame the term in European perspective during that time, however, we are not dealing with bunch of animals when we are talking about native Americans, without knowledge of their relationship to the land and how they lived, its easy to get into the same mind set of the settler and justify the type of atrocity that follows.

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Old Jun 20, 2006, 12:49 AM Local time: Jun 19, 2006, 10:49 PM #5 of 215
Originally Posted by DarkLink2135
My point was the hispanic culture in general takes much better care of their cars, and puts a lot more money into them than white people do.
How is that a cultural thing? I thought some people just take good care of thier cars. Especially when you live in the south west that you have to drive everywhere.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 20, 2006, 01:25 AM Local time: Jun 19, 2006, 11:25 PM #6 of 215
Originally Posted by knkwzrd
These sources, while "primary sources", will still hold the bias of the author.

Naturally, we always get only one point of view and never has any understanding of the historic context in which they are set, oh no.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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