So here I go looking for attention again - My pencil drawings

Originally Posted by Vigilius

you should have noticed that I'm a rather messy "artist", I practically never draw using the first line, I usually make at east two or three light handed ones before I use it,

Heh, you are not "messy" enough, in my opinioin. Personally, I think knowing the structure really helps you construct an object. It really doesn't matter wheather or not it involves a human characters. :3 Its easier to catch proportion and structural issue when you break down object into simpler geomatric shapes, and this method applies to just about everything.

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Originally Posted by Vigilius

Anyways, I use this method, but only to a certain extent as I use it for more wholistic/compositional purposes rather than details.

You'd be surprised how useful it is some of those techniques can be use to find forms and building up shapes when it comes to sketching. especially considering that none of the shapes that you see in front of you exist in a vacuum, they have proportional relations to each other and not just in anatomy, but also between different objects.

Learning about at least some anatomy is good, because then you know why certain things on the surface appears as they were, and know how to look for them.

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Then you should know, the "build up" of simple shapes should occurs at the very beginning of the entire process, not throughout. It it suppose to be where we make fast sketches in which would provide the backbone for the rest of the drawing. A lot of anatomical and proportional issue should have been work out at this stage before even start shading. And how is that not freehand? Its not like we are using a grid or anything. Personally, I don't think geometric build up as a method undermines empirical approach at all.

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Originally Posted by Vigilius

I learned about the "not drawing what you think you see" phrase about seven years ago so I'd think I'd be somewhat beyond the stage of hearing it now, that's why I get kind of annoyed having to hear the basics from others again.

Well, as basic as you think that principle is, it is actually one of the most difficult things for someone to accomplish. That's why understanding abstraction and geometric build up is important. I mean, I am still hearing it being reiterated at 300 level art classes from my professors. Don't think it is easy just because it is a basic principle, because they are use and applied on many levels of art as they are made, as far as representational art goes.

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Hey, not bad. What's the medium?

I think if you are afraid of tough critique, don't expect them to be really helpful. Of course, one must exercise good desecration when it comes to something like this.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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they're mostly coal,

You mean charcoal?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?