[General Discussion] Sonic turned 15

Sonic was awesome. Seriously. As were Toejam and Earl, Cool Spot, Dizzy, Sparkster and a bunch of other Megadrive mascots. Those were my personal favorites, since I was more of a Megadrive guy. I frowned upon SNES and even ordered a limited edition Sega pack, complete with Shaq Fu Fever CD.

But yeah, dead. Splat. Then again, the same applied with the SNES and their mascots. You can only honestly continue making games with a certain icon in it before you fuck it up. Sonic was great, up until about.. oh, I dunno, Adventure 2. The original Sonic Adventure was great fun, but I always felt like the entire game revolved around mini games (casino, etc) although the story was nice. They went overboard on the facial expressions though.

Don't get me started on Shadow, Heroes and Adventure 2.

Spoiler:

In Adventure 2, at the end, both Sonic and Shadow turn "super" and fly through the sky shattering a boulder which Robotnik's grandfather programmed to hit earth. Or something like that. It's 20 minutes long and it's the cheesest piece of shit on earth. On the positive side, Adventure 2 brought out some great graphics in the Dreamcast.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by devilmaycry

the best story a game can have is "Press start button" story.

JUST WHAT EVERY RPG NEEDS.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

What are you talking about? Sonic Rush was awesome. It had (or has) excellent and catchy music, and the pace of the game is quite nice. It's more upbeat and I'd take it over the 3D Sonic titles any day of the week. And it was challenging, as well.

The only thing that I could see wrong with it (I'm still playing it, mind you) is the horrible dialogue you need to sit through. This thing looks really nice and colourful on a DS Lite, as well.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Oh, brother. And now people are comin' in here, actin' all pro sayin' Sonic Heroes was actually a good game. Some saving you did for the thread. ;_;

Oh well, at least the 2D Sonic titles haven't been ruled out completely. Now that Yuji Naka has left Sega I really don't know what to expect next, although he was only useful for Panzer Dragoon, really. I sure as hell don't expect another 2D title on a console, but I am enjoying Sonic Rush, and I will probably enjoy Sonic Rush 2 as well.

But this situation is like Chrono Trigger. If they did do a remake, everyone would bitch that it fails in comparison to the original. No matter how good it is, people will bitch. People have grown on games so much over the years that if there's a so-called "sequel" to the game, people seem to disregard it due to it not living up to the original's reputation. Chrono Cross, specifically, did this.

The same applies with Sonic. It's a shame, really, but almost all games which have transformed from 2D into 3D have failed terribly. Sonic, Contra, Castlevania, Toejam and Earl, Dizzy, X-men -- they're still decent games, but nothing compared to what it was like with 2D.

Totally random thought just came zooming past, hey guys. What's weird about Sonic 3, is that whenever I played that game, it rained at my house. And when the price finally dropped (in 1997) and I purchased the game, our house was broken into and it was stolen a week later. I'd only played the game once since buying it, and the day which I played it on, it didn't rain. That was odd as hell. And for some reason, I remember this.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by SuperSonic

So the Sonic the Hedgehog that they're making for the GBA isn't a port of the game, but it's going to be a remake? We'll see how that goes.

Hey, don't look at me, I never said that. I just gave an example of how people seem to favor the old favorites over new material popping up.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey

Hey guys, anyone play Soleil?

Actually that cameo is on the back of the box, as well. The funny thing about this game is that I have NO FUCKING CLUE WHERE TO GO after the first trial, and I've been stuck there since oh, only 12 years or so.

I eventually gave up like a real man.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Mystil

Atleast Sega is trying to slowly retire Sonic by coming up with a new character.

That's probably one of the worst ways somebody could have put something. If Sega wanted Sonic to retire, they wouldn't keep making Sonic titles. It's that simple. Or did you forget the whole "Sonic to debut on the PS3" thing.

Same applies for other companies, I guess. Ever noticed how Crash Bandicoot is sort of, well, dead? That's because it is. A bunch of spinoffs and Naughty Dog have moved on with Ratchet & Clank among other things. Croc is also dead, even though it had a sequel; it retired and didn't make a bunch of crappy spinoff titles in the process.

Speaking of spinoffs:

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It's sad when your spin-off games are actually more slighty better then your story-line games. *Shadow the Hedgehog*

I always thought that Shadow the Hedgehog was a spinoff. It's basically a black Sonic with guns (WHY WASN'T THIS A HUGE HIT IN AMERICA THEN). I haven't played Shadow but from what I can tell it's pretty much a joke.

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