This little piggy got shut down

Don't care. I didn't like their rules or way they managed the site.

It wasn't just "okay, split a rar and create a torrent, must have over x gb, must not already be on the site." but more like, you had to properly rip it into the format you've described, perfectly, and detail the music as much as possible otherwise you risk the possibility of being banned or having your torrent nuked due to inaccurate bullshit and niggery.

Not "oh, hey, you're helping us out by uploading something! We appreciate it." but they made it feel like a privilege to be an uploader.

Fuck OiNK, I don't give a shit, maybe this will teach people to buy their own stuff for a change and maybe scene release groups will realize that leaking albums before their release date isn't a smart move in any way, shape or form. It's like niki said, they asked for it.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Capo

I assume you've never downloaded a file illegally then, huh?

I have. Does this discredit my opinion of people being considered gay for purchasing their albums instead of downloading them these days?

I have a well paying job. If there's something I download (yes, illegally) that I like, I purchase it. If you don't have a well paying job and if you can't afford items and resort to downloading them as your only method of getting them, yes, you are guilty, not I.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Capo

The probability of you "getting what's coming to you" is the same, though. How do you know that all of those on OiNK weren't simply doing the same as you, and downloading to see if they liked it? Would you still blame them then?

You can't say all people on OiNK were downloading and then purchasing the albums. That's laughable. I'd be willing to say 10%, most likely less, would do this. The uploaders and their tight ass rules are to blame for having over 60 leaked albums on their site this year. They killed themselves because of it.

I mean it's not like something like this is unpredictable considering it's bound to be drawn to somebody's attention who can do something about it.

Originally Posted by LeHah

No, being Elixir discredits you from having any valid opinion about anything, ever.

Yeah I don't know about you but uh I don't spend hours online finding enjoyment in belittling others to make myself feel like I'm getting one up over my fellow man since I can't do that in real life. Thank god I'm not you.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

You don't look like a badass or on-topic.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by LeHah

Yet he's still somehow a better poster than you.

Quit this "I feel so put on" shit, Hi-Potion. No one will ever feel sorry for your bullshit, just live up to your low standards and cut the act. You put on this cock-rubbing front of how you "legitimately steal" in a brilliant (read: stupid) attempt to vindicate breaking the law - but then you get more emo than a theater full of Nightmare Before Christmas fans when someone calls you out on it. Stop trying to be Jesus Christ and learn to wipe your own ass.

Except no one was calling me out on it. Learn to read. Also not cock-rubbing at all. A large portion of OiNK members illegally download their stuff and never buy it, this is common knowledge by now. A portion of them obviously purchase albums too, but it is greatly smaller.

Are you saying if I download an album I like, and purchase it, I'm doing wrong? No. You can't "rent" CDs. You can't "try before you buy" with CDs. The only way of doing this is by downloading them. This is my method of trying before I buy. Although I'm in a position where I can purchase items directly without doing so, I prefer to be cautious. It's just smart thinking.

Thankfully game torrent sites haven't been stupid enough to have accumulated over 60 leaked games within a period of 1 year and been shut down in the process unlike OiNK.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by LeHah

In other words - its not stealing if it benefits what YOU like...

I like CDs. I like games. Dig deeper.

Quote:

After all, you just said downloading material from a place that you admitted hosts it illegally can't be illegal because... sites that do host illegally get shut down?

No I didn't. I said they drew attention to themselves and were closed because of it. Unlike CDs, games this year have seen 1-3 leaked releases at maximum, although I'm sure there's someone in a position of authority, something you'll never see, watching over them as well.

Considering it's completely legal to own a backed up copy of a game in my country, I don't mind at all. Downloading and trying the game out, then purchasing the game, means I then have both. Perfectly legal. And 90% of the time, I buy games I download, and I use the downloaded copies so I don't have to open my games or worry about them getting scratched.

But this is straying from the point. The point is OiNK managed to get attention and cause a ruckus over the amount of leaked material and music material in general. Due to their popularity it's no surprise this happened.

Originally Posted by ramoth

Yes, that's illegal, and you have no "moral superiority" over people who don't do that.

Yes, because I claimed that I have moral superiority over people who download illegally.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?