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Old Aug 12, 2007, 02:17 AM Local time: Aug 12, 2007, 08:17 PM 1 #1 of 137
I originally discovered touhou in early 2005, when I went on a spree of downloading.

I was sucked in by the massive bullet patterns. I was playing Mushihimesama at the time, and clearing that on a single credit was delayed due to these games popping up. I decided to work on Imperishable Night, and I've beaten it on Easy, Normal and EX.

I prefer Imperishable Night over PCB and EoSD. EoSD feels rather old, although it's the hardest out of all of them. PCB feels akin to IN, but still different. Also, considering that Yuyuko Saigyougi is my favourite character, I enjoy playing.

Note: Ghost team (Youmu/Yuyuko) is the best for scoring in IN.

My favourite enemies would definitely have to be Mokou, Patchouli and Reisen. They're great. I'm not really all that fond of Ran, China, or Wriggle.

I don't care all that much for the fan made stuff, but the music arranges are nice. I have about 9 gb of touhou music including basically everything; violin, punk rock, 8 bit, screamo, symphony, symphony rock, etc. Practically every genre has been covered by fans for touhou music. I'm also VERY fond of MoF's stage 2 music.

Also, the remixes of the IOSYS flashes have been done a million times on youtube/niconico, I'm so sick of them. It's like the remixes of the Lucky Star opening. Fun for the first month.. now.. ugh.

Right now I'm trying to get through EoSD's EX.

And.. what else? Oh, I recently bought the three danmaku touhou games: EoSD, PCB and IN:



And.. that's it, I guess.

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Old Aug 12, 2007, 03:59 AM Local time: Aug 12, 2007, 09:59 PM 1 #2 of 137
Use Reimu A for PCB. Sakuya's shot fails because you need to be a certain area for her to lock on, but Reimu does that everywhere.

There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Old Aug 17, 2007, 04:59 AM Local time: Aug 17, 2007, 10:59 PM 1 #3 of 137
Yeah, I know. I'm going to wait though because I can't stand the slowness of torrents, and someone's going to give me a direct http download. Paying for your upload as well is a real drag.

Edit: Ok. Got it, 1cc'd normal. Pretty easy stuff. The final attack pattern is more a test of endurance over anything else, and it's very reminiscent of one of Reimu's attacks in IN.

I think I'll go for EX now, or something. I feel left short a bit by MoF's main game.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Aug 17, 2007, 01:38 PM Local time: Aug 18, 2007, 07:38 AM #4 of 137
I can't understand how ZUN managed to make MoF so fucking easy. Easy mode is pathetic, Normal is easy, and Hard is.. well, Normal. Lunatic is weird. EX is challenging.

Definitely unbalanced difficulty levels here.

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Old Aug 18, 2007, 04:42 PM Local time: Aug 19, 2007, 10:42 AM #5 of 137
Your starting lives are your starting lives, you can't change them. But there's extends and extra lives to help you out.

Stage 4 is bullshit unbalanced, and should be switched with stage 6.

I 1cc'd normal, and I managed to ALMOST 1cc hard. I had an inch of health left on Kanako's final bullet pattern and died. Her bullet patterns aside from that one are easy, except for one which traces you around a bit. I like her music.

Easy's final bullet pattern is harder than Normal's final bullet pattern.

Kanako in EX is pretty easy, even if you have to bomb on her last spell card.

I can get up to stage 4 in Lunatic, but lol fuck stage 4.

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Old Aug 21, 2007, 02:40 AM Local time: Aug 21, 2007, 08:40 PM #6 of 137
Extra's pretty easy in comparison to the other Extra's. The survival spell cards seem to kill me quite often, though.

Stage 4 is extremely messed up, I still can't believe it. Also, Marisa B is broken. Keep your power between 3 and 4 while shooting unfocused against a boss, and you'll see what I mean. But Marisa B isn't all that useful in the first place.

Actually Marisa isn't all that useful at all. Reimu A and C are great though.

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Old Aug 21, 2007, 03:01 AM Local time: Aug 21, 2007, 09:01 PM #7 of 137
No.. I said Marisa was useless. I don't like using her at all. I guess if you centre Marisa A properly on bosses, she'd be good.

I'd appreciate it more if ZUN actually PLAYTESTED HIS OWN DAMN GAME before releasing it. Stage 4's most annoying bullet patterns are the blue/white ones, which use a trapping technique. I don't really have a strategy for those.

For the mid boss, start far left or right, and scrape around the edges of the larger blueish white circles. I've pretty much figured that out. It's the gigantic spam of faries which shoot blue orbs that are annoying, don't you think?

After playing Lunatic (I can get to Stage 4, but I have to bomb like hell on Nitori) I've gotta say Reimu A is really useful. Like, REALLY useful. Her damage is just a slight bit under Reimu B providing you're shotgunning the enemy. That doesn't really happen much but it does happen, like on Shizoku's second pattern.

EX is fun, minus the extremely annoying survival patterns. It reminds me of Mokou's pattern where she disappears, and orbs appear from each side of you before exploding.

Oh, here's a video of someone beating Suwako with Marisa B(ugged):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=705EpnTjtxk

Not sure what to make of this.. it's not a true EX clear considering Marisa B is bugged. In any case, I'll work on Stage 4 a bit more. I have more issues with the stage itself than Aya herself.

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Old Aug 26, 2007, 10:33 AM Local time: Aug 27, 2007, 04:33 AM #8 of 137
After playing around with the scoring of mof, I don't know whether ZUN is a genius or not.

Like, getting the first extend on stage 1 for example. And bombing in the appropriate places for score, despite failing spell cards in the process. In any case, I can pretty much do the first two stages flawlessly on Hard, getting an extend on each, and another extend on stage 3 shortly before or after Nitori mid-boss where she leaves a 1up behind.

I'm randomly victim to Nitori's first spell card, and it's pretty different from Normal (instead of just crossover bluish white bullets, it also has orbs) and her mid-attack which has them coming from both sides in a wavy pattern (in Normal, they're not wavy at all).

Stage 4 I'm still unsure of. I still have to bomb when I don't want too at times. I guess I'll wait for some videos to pop up that deal with that part.

If I'm not playing for score I can easily make it up to Kanako on Hard, but it's not like I would want to do that. Scoring is much more fun. Kanako isn't.

If anyone wants to purchase Mountain of Faith, paletweb are now taking preorders (I bought EoSD, IN and PCB, and they arrived the third day <3)

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Old Aug 28, 2007, 03:17 AM Local time: Aug 28, 2007, 09:17 PM #9 of 137
Yeah, I preordered mof.

I'm only having problems with these spell cards:

Nitori's final card with green spikes.
Sanae's card with white spikes.
Kanako's "huge red and blue bullets that transform into smaller bulltes" card.
Aya's survival card.

Aside from that, sometimes I have issues with Aya or Kanako. I pretty much have Sanae, Hina, and all that, down. I hit 700k faith on Hard before fucking it up at Aya.

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Old Aug 29, 2007, 03:41 AM Local time: Aug 29, 2007, 09:41 PM #10 of 137
1cc'd Hard yesterday. :ver cool:

Scored 591k. I was going to bother with scoring, but uh, considering the fact that there's a Hard replay with over 1 billion in score, I don't think I can compete. Oh well, I'm just happy I 1cc'd it, which is usually what I play for.

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Old Sep 18, 2007, 12:29 PM Local time: Sep 19, 2007, 06:29 AM #11 of 137
Cross-posted:

Okay, I've been taking up Lunatic for the past week and I actually managed to pull it off. Barely. The final spell card is by far the biggest pile of bullshit I have ever seen in touhou, and the massive jump between Hard's final card and Lunatic's final card is ridiculous.

Aside from that, Sanae feels really out of place. I mean, Aya is much harder. I did survive her survival spell card during a 1cc attempt once, but it's still very difficult. I'm not sure why stage 4 comes before stage 5, but whatever.

I used Reimu B so I could do more damage to the final card, which is practically the only thing (well, I also have trouble with Aya's final card and Sanae's orb + spikes card) I'm guaranteed to mess up on. I'm probably the first white person to 1cc Lunatic with Reimu B.

I think mof overall, is a visually appealing looking game, but the characters are forgettable and it doesn't retain the touhou charm I found in IN.

Lunatic - 378,421,120 - Reimu B - C - 0.320% - ELIXIR - Replay

If you have Mountain of Faith, check this out. I'll probably retire from the game now, and go back to previous titles like EoSD and PCB which I really haven't given enough attention.

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Old Sep 18, 2007, 11:09 PM Local time: Sep 19, 2007, 05:09 PM #12 of 137
Just mof, because I'm sick of it for now. I tried pofv with a friend, but because of the lag, it's kind of shitty. Still, aside from some jerkyness, the game was quite fun to play (I beat him 5:1)

But yeah, PCB and EoSD need my attention more. I know they're better games, and I haven't even beaten EoSD on Normal yet. That, both EX's, Phantasm, both Hards and maybe Lunatic if I have enough free time, means practically nothing left to do in mof.

Besides, for mof, you can't score properly with Reimu B.

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 01:29 PM Local time: Sep 20, 2007, 07:29 AM #13 of 137
Totally forgot about this. Shit, this will be tough. I can't believe Suika came anywhere even close to Yuyuko. And I can't believe China beat Eirin.

Whatever, I voted for Cirno and Patchouli, since they're my favourite of the group, and:

Spoiler:
Wow. I didn't know Cirno and Patchu were both leading. I would've thought Marisa would be on top, due to her popularity.


But ultimately Mokou or Flandre need to win this.

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Old Sep 23, 2007, 02:32 AM Local time: Sep 23, 2007, 08:32 PM #14 of 137
Touhou Seimoe 2007 · You can Vote for TWO Characters per Group!

VOTE FOR FLANDRE

Also, I 1cc'd Imperishable Night on Lunatic with Border team. Terrible play though. I ended up coming out on my last life with 0 bombs, mostly due to fucking up stage 6 early. A good quarter of the final spell card (Hourai Jewel) was spent with 0 bombs. I guess I'll upload the replay a little later.

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Old Oct 1, 2007, 03:37 PM Local time: Oct 2, 2007, 09:37 AM #15 of 137
Here is the rofltastic 1cc Lunatic run I did of Imperishable Night. It's terrible, and I did it on a bad day, but if you want to watch it be my guest.

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Old Oct 2, 2007, 10:41 AM Local time: Oct 3, 2007, 04:41 AM #16 of 137
Heh, at least you can clear IN 1CC. I can't even do EoSD extra.
Don't worry, EoSD Extra is probably the hardest Extra available. Followed by PCB, then IN, then MoF. I haven't spent all that much time on EoSD in comparison to the other games. Though, EoSD is probably tied with IN in terms of favourites.

The thing about EoSD is that it has rank, and planning only takes you so far because of it. Patchouli is horrendous if you're on Lunatic and using Marisa A. If you're using Marisa A you're going to have difficulty with capturing Lava Cromlech or Emerald Megalith.

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Reimu-Mat is going to be my new avatar - that's for sure!
It's actually a pencil board. And they scratch easily.

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Old Oct 3, 2007, 02:25 PM Local time: Oct 4, 2007, 08:25 AM #17 of 137
Patchouli Knowledge (50%, 485 Votes)
Remilia Scarlet (50%, 484 Votes)

Holy. Shit.

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Old Oct 6, 2007, 12:37 AM Local time: Oct 6, 2007, 06:37 PM #18 of 137
Patchouli?
Youre talking about IN or EoSD? If its EoSD I can understand.. XD. I had to practice Patchy's stage over and over till I got the hang of it. Then I get obliterated in Stage 5(well this was back when I was a new to EoSD).
Patchouli is only in EoSD.

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Old Oct 8, 2007, 09:00 PM Local time: Oct 9, 2007, 03:00 PM #19 of 137
YouTube Video

I really need to find a way of fixing this sound issue.

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Old Oct 11, 2007, 02:43 AM Local time: Oct 11, 2007, 08:43 PM #20 of 137
All games. Others have told me the video sounds horrible, but I'm not sure how to fix it at all.

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Old Dec 18, 2007, 02:52 AM Local time: Dec 18, 2007, 08:52 PM #21 of 137
Hey guys, Akyu's Untouched Score 4 and 5 have been announced for C73. These are albums by ZUN.


幺樂団の歴史4
東方夢時空 ~ Phantasmagoria of Dim.Dream


幺樂団の歴史5
東方靈異伝 〜 Highly Responsive to Prayers

Official Announcement

Sweet~ I like ZUN's works, although they aren't EoSD/PCB/IN related by much. There's definitely better albums out there of touhou material, though.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Dec 29, 2007, 03:34 PM Local time: Dec 30, 2007, 09:34 AM #22 of 137
New IOSYS flash is out, it's pretty good.

“Œ•û‰Í‘z‹ç‘“’ruPower of dreamvP.V. - IOSYS

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Old Dec 29, 2007, 10:25 PM Local time: Dec 30, 2007, 04:25 PM #23 of 137
If anyone is interested in good, well done touhou arranges, I recommend checking out UI-70, Alstroemeria Records and Golden City Factory.

Most of their stuff is the best you can find.

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Old Jan 2, 2008, 03:56 AM Local time: Jan 2, 2008, 09:56 PM #24 of 137
Well, Comiket 73 just passed and with it a whole bunch of touhou arranges were released. Most noticeable were Golden City Factory, Demetori and two Alstroemeria Albums.

I haven't had much of a chance to listen to a lot of it, but I did listen to the new album "HARMONY" from Alstroemeria Records. It's "ok", the only song I really like on it is Dark Road. It's mixed from Stage 2 MoF and Cirno's theme. Patchucon also looks really interesting, and I'll check that out very soon.

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Old Jan 4, 2008, 03:19 AM Local time: Jan 4, 2008, 09:19 PM #25 of 137
The only song I like on HARMONY is Dark Road. The other Alstroemeria Records album doesn't seem to be related to touhou at all.

Apparently there was also a UI-70 album released at this Comiket, but it hasn't been uploaded to share. I'd really like to hear it since UI-70 make really good touhou arranges. I'll check out Demetori and Golden City Factory stuff tonight.

Actually come to think of it, if anyone wants me to upload the Alstroemeria Records album "Blue Note" in FLAC, I can, because it arrived a few days ago. I'm also expecting a few other Alstroemeria albums in the mail from Japan.

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