[DS] Nintendo DS/Lite discussion thread

Holy shit, Infernal, is that some footrot flats I see in your ava/sig combo?

Also yeah. I haven't needed to charge mine very often at all - 3 times in fact, and that's with the level 1/2 brightness level. I don't know how anyone could possibly use 3 or 4 at night. It's more of a "only when you're outside" sort of thing. I'm surprised the manual didn't mention anything about the brightness levels causing eye troubles.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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I'm considering Children of Mana and Castlevania, but I was never a gigantic fan of Castlevania and I'm unsure of how Mana is. Any thought, 'Lix?

Well, I imported the original japanese version when it was $20 US at play-asia. I must say, it's impressive. On the DS Lite, it is beautiful. But since you don't have a DS Lite.. um, well, I was still impressed by it on the original DS. I did, at the time, import it when I had my original DS. Although at the moment, I'm sort of stuck. I've just been level grinding (which you'll get used to) Wanderer, since he's the weakest character you can choose from. His only real advantage is a higher amount of HP, and no real damage increment when he levels.

I'm definitely buying it when it's out in english, that's for sure. Hell yeah. You need to be one for dungeon crawlers or you might find it repetitive. Some of the dungeons can go on for quite awhile, and you're going to need to replay through a few of them for side-quests and item hunting.

The japanese version is surprisingly easy to understand. The only real problem is (well, lack of guides on GameFAQs for a start) the gems which you collect, because the gem translation guide available means you're going to be checking up from time to time. So yeah, I'd preferably wait for an english release, and keep the japanese release as a collector's item. Sounds fair, huh?

Oh uh... Dawn of Sorrow? Hmm, well, I picked that up and was addicted. Then again, I completed Aria of Sorrow just before buying my DS. Oh, I just remembered. Dawn of Sorrow on the DS Lite looks almost identical to on the original DS. So yeah, since you have an original DS, I'd say go for it.

If you're into flashing your DS/flash carts/SD cards and such, that's a great way of testing games before you buy. Which is perfect in my situation, because I don't like importing japanese titles without knowing too much about them. Then again, if you're getting something like this, you probably aren't going legit. My supercard sd/superkey should arrive soon. Then I can finally try out some of the more obscure titles (japanese, mostly) and the ones I'm not willing to pay for ($30 for Zoo Keeper? fuck that.) easily.

But, like all games, this doesn't have much replay value. In Dawn of Sorrow for example, there's a decent amount of modes available. But think, are you going to bother playing through the game twice, to collect souls and such? Sure, getting the Soul Eater Ring for 300k sounds interesting (which I have, and I've only noticed a slight improvement in collecting souls), and sure, collecting souls which you've missed the first time around is neat, but apart from that, that's it.

When you beat the game, it unlocks hard mode, Julius mode, sound mode, and a place-enemies-anywhere-and-beat-the-shit-out-of-them-at-your-leisure mode. Which is nice, because I like modes. I like them good. But I'm not too interested in Julius mode myself -- hard mode is no different from normal mode. All they dois decrease all of the weapons power. Which sucks.

But it's still another title I'd highly recommend. That's the trouble with DS games though, they lack replayability. The only ones which have real replayability I've found are Ouendan, Bomberman DS and Daigasso. I should be getting some more soon though, so I can't rule out a few obscure titles just yet.

Oh, and definitely get Gyakuten Saiban Best Price. I'm thoroughly enjoying it. $30 for Phoenix Wright is a steal, and you get to act all cool by having the japanese version. If Ouendan didn't exist, I'd probably consider it my favorite title.

Originally Posted by The_Griffin

I've got Tetris DS, Mario Kart DS, MP:H (don't really like this game =\), Mario And Luigi: Partners In Time (LOVE it), and Brain Age right now.

I have an awesome idea! Send me MP:H since I don't have it. That way, you get rid of a game which you don't like, and in the process, you're making someone happy. Namely, me. It's a win-win situation right here.

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Originally Posted by The_Griffin

So yeah, I might wind up doing that eventually. The awkwardness I might be able to get over eventually, but I'm not sure about the cramping.

No, no, your hands will NEVER stop cramping, so send it to me immediately. Plus, all the game cases here are fuck ugly. That's why I usually import my stuff from japan/america since the black cases are less..

Wait. Sonic, what are you doing?



Crystal white cases? Gigantic green age rating? Oh, well..



OH GOD, YOU'RE FAT TOO. AND YES THIS SORT OF HURT MY HAND.



Sonic, you used to be cool ;_;

Sonic Rush is a great game and everything, and quite difficult in parts. But.. but these cases are a crime against humanity. With that said, I'm sure Infernal has loads of them.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Malmer

Dead/stuck pixels are actually pretty rare - you just hear of all of them. I asked the store manager at the local EB about it, and he never had a single return (old and new DS alike).

This would be true if it was true. But it isn't, and you're wrong.

Dead pixels are quite common. Stores will either deny seeing any or mention that they've only seen a couple just to get you a sale. I think I've spotted a dead pixel on the top screen of my DS Lite, but it's at the bottom right and I can't see it very often.

It doesn't really bother me because I usually stick with 1/2 brightness setting. I'd rather have my DS Lite last longer than charging it every 5 hours due to having death-like brightness.

Besides, the colours wash out on 3 or 4. Then again, 3 and 4 is only there for when you're playing outdoors. If I somehow stuff up flashing my DS Lite when my gear arrives, I'll just use the "it doesn't turn on" excuse to return it for another one.

A great way of finding dead pixels is by turning the brightness to 4, going into pictochat, and ejecting a DS game. That way you have two magneta screens you can scan for dead pixels which are all one colour.

But I'm surprised at how little I notice this one. I didn't even see it until two weeks after purchase.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Malmer

We could ping-pong this all day.

Care factor = 0.

Originally Posted by KnowsNothing

Also, anyone try controlling Animal Crossing with the Lite's pad? It's HARD. With the original's pad it felt surprisingly good because it was easier to push diagonals or something. I'm having a really hard time with the Lite's...

Mine feels fine. But my volume control knob on my DS Lite is extremely loose. I think you have to press a bit harder with the DS Lite's touchscreen, too. But again, I don't mind. It's still definitely worth buying (and a reason never to touch your original DS again.)

Which apparently happens to the majority of DS Lites, according to people over at GameFAQs. I don't mind it though, even if my DS Lite has a couple of flaws. I'm not sure if the loose volume thing is something occuring on ALL DS Lites (and I'm pretty sure my single dead pixel (which I rarely notice) isn't) but still, I'm just glad I have a white one. After looking at the different colours, the black/navy ones look like they'd pick up dirt and fingerprints and show them easier.

I must admit I still like the Ice Blue DS Lite over the white, though.

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So, I was wondering. How many people here are still using their original DS' and not the DS Lite?

I'm still sort of interested in getting a black (or white) limited edition original japanese DS. DS Lite's aren't good for fighting games (Astro Boy, Jump Superstars, Gunstar Super Heroes, Bleach, Naruto, blah blah.)

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Please don't tell me you're going to import a handheld from a different country just for it's color.

That's just ridiculous. I've been there. It's not worth the hassle.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Forsakenzoul

yes i am (At least plan to), i want the black one and Europe is the only place to get it It'll be worth it for me Thank you for the responce RockgamerXIII ^^

Black shows the scratches, fingerprints and dirt quicker than the white one does, much like a car. Youtube has a bunch of videos showing the black DS Lite. For the price you're going to pay for shipping and handling, you could have bought a couple of games.

But hey, go ahead and waste your money. It's cool.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I'm just sayin', you know.

I still prefer the Ice Blue Lite but everyone thinks it's for girls. I only have a white because I'm impatient.

Actually, I went through the same experience recently with the original DS. Play-asia are having a sale and their black/white original DS' are on special (they're now the same price as the DS Lite) and I really wanted to pick one up. If the Lite hadn't of been released I probably would've already imported it by now.

But alas, they do the same thing. It's not like I'm going to run around the streets yelling "I HAVE A BLACK NINTENDO DS".

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I'm going to try and replace my DS again. I've noticed another dead pixel on the bottom right of the top screen. There's two of them now, and while one isn't as apparent as the other, nothing I've done would have caused this.

I'll just tell them I've been on vacation or something, and hopefully they'll replace it. I'm really not happy about it getting a second dead pixel, and the dead pixel fixers don't work.

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Unless you have a real problem with it, don't bother taking it back. The stock they have will be exactly the same as before, so there's no point exchanging one for another when you're no going to be solving any problems in the process.

Yesterday I returned my DS Lite for another. Which is surprising, because I've had it for over a month now. And IT WAS FLASHED. But they were saying that they'd send it in, and get it checked out. They didn't see the dead pixels until I managed to get one displaying on a black screen. The bright store lights didn't help either.

The new DS Lite which I have feels better, and I can tell the difference between the older Lite and the newer Lite. The sound (yes, it's just as quiet as the previous Lite) knob is as sloppy as ever, but I noticed the stylus locks into place and is harder to get out. I also noticed that the top screen doesn't "click" into place like my original DSLite did. It doesn't make any noise when it locks itself into that set position it has.

I've also noticed that there's a very, very thin layer of protection on the touchscreen. It's temporary, and it makes movement on the touchscreen slower, so the screen isn't as slippery. Once you wear it down, it's gone. It's sort of like the stuff they put on PS2 controllers, and after a few months it isn't there anymore. Except this stuff will rub off faster. They could have done this for the top screen as well but I can't be certain.

I'm happy now I've done this. There's no dead pixels on my new one, and I don't have to flash it or anything. I'm sort of sad to see mine go, but I can't tolerate dead pixels. I started getting pissed off in the store when they mentioned that they'd send it in for repairs, but eventually they swapped it flat-out when the original person I purchased it off showed up.

What sucks is, Nintendo is dealt with here by a corporation called Monaco, and Sony is dealt through Fixtronics, and they won't repair or exchange/swap consoles unless there's a significant number of dead pixels on the screen. ONE is significant enough, but they don't seem to see it that way.

When I first phoned the store and asked about their return policies, they said that they won't and can't replace PSP's unless they have 7 or more dead pixels. When I was in the store, they said 20 or more. So either they're bullshitting, or the companies are really tough on their return policies here. It's a shame because this means I'll never be buying a PSP.

And when you get a bunch of middle aged men working in a gaming store, they can easily blame their vision for not seeing the dead pixels. It's almost like a hopeless battle with some people since they're so fucking dense they're not going to give a toss whether you're pleased or not. Some do, some don't.

The dpad is always stiff to begin with. I've noticed this from the one I returned, to this one. It eventually breaks in after you've used it for awhile, so the responsiveness kicks in after a period of time. I don't mind this, since it isn't a big deal. I haven't had any problems with ghosting myself, even.

There's also apparently two different types of touchscreens for the Lite. This was also true for the original DS, where you had "grid" and "grainy" screens. I'm not too sure which mine is, but the original DS touchscreen I had was pretty poor, and it made Bomberman DS look like garbage in comparison to it's top screen. It looks rather distorted (like there's a layer of screen protecting it, yet there isn't) and isn't as good as the top screen of the Lite, but I really don't mind.

The main problem with all LCD material is the fucking dead pixels. I'm still not sure how the DS Lite I returned managed to get another vague dead pixel. Originally, it had one. I didn't notice it until about a week after purchase, while playing Phoenix Wright. I did everything to get rid of it--rubbing, pixel fixer programs, wiping--but nothing worked. Then the second dead pixel appears about half a cm to the right of the previous dead pixel. It could have been from rubbing, but I'll never know for sure.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Happy birthday, Max.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Omnislash124

So yeah, Are there any good DS games out right now that will last me a while? I just completed everything there is to do in Mario Kart DS (not completed, but unlocked everything). So, let's see, I was looking at the New Super Mario Bros. possibly or Advance Wars DS. Is there anything else that anybody can recommend? I need something that will last a while and will not tear up my screen too badly.

This is not to say Mario Kart DS is not fun anymore, but I'm down to just racing in VS mode or battling it out. Regardless, I need a new game to get away from Mario Kart DS for a while. I've got 3 GBA games already so no GBA recommendations. (Those are, BTW, Tales of Phantasia, Golden Sun, Golden Sun: The Lost Age)

Render bought NSMB over Advance Wars. He's regretting it. Everyone told him otherwise, too. Don't make the same mistake.

Advance Wars is probabyl the longest game on the DS. You can't go wrong with it, unless it just isn't your thing whatsoever. The problem with the DS is tht the games it has lack replayability (NSMB is a perfect example) and lack length (like Project Rub) and some games you just aren't going to play for awhile once you've completed them, such as Phoenix Wright.

That said, I'm going to recommend Ouendan, for it's obvious replayability.

FELIPE NO

Or, where's Yoshi's Island 2.

I swear when that game is released I'm going to perfect it like I almost did with the first. The only reason I didn't get everything in the first was because I'm lazy, and I'm lazy. It's a surprise they're even considering a sequel.

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Originally Posted by RockgamerXIII

It's fun, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna keep playing it when there isn't anything else in it to do. The fact that you're still gonna be playing it doesn't change the fact that it is still a short game. What am I gonna do, keep playing the same levels again and again? I feel I beat the game to its fullest extent (that's what the three stars mean to me, by the way), and since I have other games to play, that's what I'm gonna do instead of playing the same one over and over again.

Don't worry, Grubdog will be playing said Nintendo title until next Nintendo title is released. You're really not doing anything wrong by not completing it and obtaining every single thing they've put into this game. It's not a perfectionist's game.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I haven't had a problem with any of the DS Lites I've been using. I found some idiot whining about it here and how it's apparently a "faulty design." Yet, if it were a faulty design, this problem would be like Vamp just said. Wide-spread.

If you take care of it, it'll be fine. At first I was against the DS Lite (because of course, I didn't own one) but now I'm for it. If people look after their stuff and don't throw the top screen back when opening it, there shouldn't be a problem.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by bahamuty

Has anyone tried this yet? An internet browser for DS and DSlite.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-...n-70-1gba.html

Japan sure gets a lot of helpful DS games. Dictionaries, learning aids, cooking helpers.

Unless someone's actually taken the time to import it, probably not.

I don't know about M3 but this doesn't work with the supercard.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Also, this game is either going to be the best game ever or the biggest let-down ever. Come on Artoon! You will not be forgiven if you mess this up.

How could the makers of Blinx, Ghost Trap and Yoshi Topsy-Turvy possibly mess this up?

Oh yeah, that's why. ;_;

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Originally Posted by avanent

Black DS? Yes, please.



Look at that! Its like sex in a small tiny black package.

Yeah, it looks like that when it's brand new and untouched, sure. Once you've opened and played with it for the night, it's going to be covered in fingerprints and debris and shit. They could have used the same texture on the inside of the handheld but no.



I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Free.User

Am I the only one who actually prefers the white DS Lite over the black?

I prefer the white as well, for the reasons above.

Like someone said, it's like a car. Black cars show the dirt and scratches easier, while white ones don't.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I suppose it depends on the dirt and area you've covered. This is the best comparison I could find.

Similarily, if you take a dirty black PS2 controller and put it in the light you'll be able to see the dirt in the cracks. If you take a dirty white PS2 controller and put it in the light, you'll probably see about as much dirt as you would without lighting. But that's nothing I would worry about, it's the scratches that annoy me. I'm certain scratch marks show easier on dark cars/black DS Lites.



The scratch marks and fingerprints would ultimately end up piss me off pretty fast.

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Dreamcast controllers show grime a heck of a lot easier than PS2 controllers.

Over a period of time, yeah. But Dreamcast controllers aren't any major task, and they can be cleaned. I've done it myself. You can't exactly clean a DS Lite very well.

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Um... What? For one thing, you can't compare the back end of a car to the hood of another for dirt collection. That black car's hood looks more like it's been driven around near a beach too, so of course it's going to look filthy. That "scratch" is bright because it looks like someone's keyed that car. Why on earth would you have a scratch that deep in your DS Lite?

It's possible to have scratches that deep in a DS Lite, so don't rule it out. The point which was missed was that the black DS Lite will show more scratches (and fingerpritns) in bright areas, much like the white DS Lite will show more dirt in bright areas.

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Also, you fully admit that a Dreamcast controller looks grimier than a PS2 controller over time. How easy it is to clean a Dreamcast controller is irrelevant.

I said that the Dreamcast controllers become dirty over time and show the dirt that way. Which can be cleaned. Cleaning a DS is going to give anyone trouble.

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So you agree that black controllers look fine as long as you're not in a very bright area, whereas white controllers show their crap all the time?

Haha oh wow. It's not like a white product becomes IMMEDIATELY DIRTY as soon as you take it out of the box. How long does it take an iPod to get dirty? Or a Mac? Quite awhile. If you aren't playing in a bright area you shouldn't be worrying about dirt, fingerprints, scratches, or even the color.

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I don't really want a black or white DS Lite to be honest. A white DS Lite will look dirty after awhile, and a black DS Lite would look too much like a PSP. I'm hoping Nintendo releases a shade of blue sometime around Christmas or right after.

Yes, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. But it's a COLOR. You're going to be looking at the screens, not the DS itself. Maybe you should just pick a color and stick with it because you're going to find problems with either regardless.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Well, it's just that you seemed to be making a huge fuss out of nothing. I've played with both black and white DS Lites, and even I haven't had this much of a problem in deciding. Ultimately I enjoy the white more because fingerprints don't show up half as much and you won't see scratches. Not that mine has any, but I've seen pictures of a scratched black DS before.

And I've been playing with the white one since the beginning of June, and it isn't even dirty yet. Then again I take care of my shit. But you're not going to buy a DS Lite for it's color, you're going to purchase it for the games.

Which is all that should really matter.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

There is a distinct lack of Touch Detective in that wanted list.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

There is next to no reason why you should buy or use screen protectors.

The DS' screen is extremely durable, and unless you're playing Ouendan and Trauma Center every single day, you won't have to worry about anything. The only beneficial thing I can see out of them is that it makes the touchscreen tighter (which I'm assuming would be difficult for Ouendan) and thus giving you more grip.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.