[PS2] Final Fantasy XII

Trust me on this, high definition on old games makes them look like rubbish.

Take Capcom vs. SNK 2 for example. I can play this on my monitor thanks to a VGA adaptor, but the characters are sprites, and it's pretty bad. I think all games which aren't 3D look pretty bad on VGA.

Why I'm talking about VGA is because having a 1028x Dreamcast game being played on your monitor is basically the same as what HDTV is. It may not feel like it, but the Dreamcast was the only console which you can use a VGA adaptor on. The upscan works by itself.

If you used a VGA adaptor on the xbox or PS2, it would probably look like crap. It's one thing to play games on a monitor, it's an entirely different thing to get quality out of that game, via the monitor. And seeing as how most PS1 games are 2D, if the PS3 plays them in high def, they're going to look like crap.

It's like Mortal Kombat Deception on the 360 all over again. *cringe*

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Weren't you in the PS3 thread? It was already announced that the machine will apply a considerable amount of post-processing (such as much needed AA, AF, texture smoothing, etc..) and then output them at 720p/1080i/1080p.

But will that work with XII? If it does, well, good. Actually, bad. Because then there would be a portion of games on the PS2(like you said; SotC) which won't be playable. If you're prevented from playing certain games due to the increased quality, it isn't worth it.

Which is more important, quality or games themselves? I'm going to say games themselves, because quality can only go so far. I don't have a HDTV nor will I ever, but I won't be interested in the PS3 for that.

The whole thing that gets me with the PS3 is the backwards compatibility. If they're going to enhance PS2 games, how will they manage to enhance ones like SotC?

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What the fuck? I said SotC is almost unplayabled on an HDTV because it has no AA. How would that be bad? Like I said before, it was announced that these features go hand-in-hand with backwards compatibility similar to what we have with the PS2. How this would make the game unplayable is beyond me, and how you got to that point is equally mystifying.

You just said that SotC was unplayable on a HDTV because of AA. If the PS3 fixes this, how are we to know if there's going to be problems or not with PS2 titles? We don't. How do we know if SotC will run better? We don't. That is also a really bad example, because ICO and SotC are known for having problems on flatscreen tv's.

It's pointless to buy a PS3 just to play PS2 games. No doubt they won't support PS1 controllers or something like that.

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I'm not whining. Are you incapable of reading my posts, or is it heredity?

I said that there's no point in buying a PS3 to play a PS2 game. There's no point in buying a PS3 for a slight graphical improvement in XII. You might as well just stick with your PS2.

If you're going to buy a PS3, a bunch of games, and XII, and then proceed to play XII on the PS3, you are a fucking idiot.

It's about as sensible as buying a HDTV to see if PS2 games will have an improvement on the PS3. XII probably won't have much of a significant difference and nor will all PS2 games.

The XII english release isn't deliberately set to be released with the PS3, I can tell. It's an RPG and they take forever to get the voice acting and text translated, and as it's still a work in progress it's plausable to see that they need their time. I think translating their games is much more important than upgrading graphics which are perfectly fine.

I was speaking idiomatically.

That's also a quote you should consider understanding for yourself, because I was never trashing the PS3.

I'm skeptical as to what improvements PS2 games will have on the PS3. We didn't see any difference(actually, there was a lower quality out of some games) with the 360, and Sony could follow the same road.

In the end, we don't know until it's released. XII is going to be great whether it has slight improvements on an expensive next generation console, or whether it's just on a regular PS2.

I find it strange that they are releasing XII the same time as the PS3, and Nintendo are releasing Twilight Princess the same time as the Revolution. Coincidence?

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Originally Posted by Effloresce

I read some stuff posted on 2chan

2chan is... japanese, I think? You can read japanese?

If so, please translate this because I'm interested in seeing what the Final Fantasy XII PS2 console offers aside from an engraving.

FELIPE NO

I really don't think that's worth it :/ But the game still looks great.

I would of thought that an art book or sometihng like that(at least a strategy guide, possibly a keychain or even a lighter like they did with Advent Children) would of come with it.

It'll become a collectors item either way. I still prefer the white PS2's though. I can't help but think that a white PS2 with the Final Fantasy XII logo, and the engraving with a black outline, would of looked better.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

You could check here, which is huge, and may cover it.

Gamefaqs will have some XII FAQs posted soon.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Aren't japanese exe's typically fed through some kind of extraction which isn't winrar/winamp? I remember downloading some videos and it extracted it via something called "moz1."

Or that could of been .lzh files, same deal. I've never had any problems opening japanese exes myself, but you could try right clicking on said exe and making it compatible with 98 or 2k, that might solve your problem.

Make sure it's an exe, lol. :<

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Originally Posted by B4-Hunter

I have to agree. I'm playing it right now and after 37 hours of game play I can't say a bad thing about it =). Game have a lot of new things and gives you SO MUCH fun that you can play it over and over.

You've played 37 hours into an RPG which is entirely japanese, and you're only going by a guide to help you out? I don't know how you have the patience for that, man.

Oh, and towards Elrasiel's comment, that would depend on whether or not you would consider it fair for newer, more updated games to outlaw the previous ones. VI and VII were only on limited technology back when they were made, and XII has a broader array of technology with what the PS2 has to offer.

I guess it all depends on what you make of it, but VII is overrated to hell as it is. I expect XII to either slip completely under the radar like X-2 did, or become a massive hit when it's internationalized.

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That's definitely a concept art, not a real cover. I can pretty much assume the european cover will be exactly like the japanese cover, as all previous Final Fantasy titles here have been a simple white background, with the title.

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Wait, they've released the Zodiac Job System as the "International" release, although being Japan only, with English voice casting yet it isn't bilingual? They could've put both in, like in FFX International.

Well that's dumb. Cancelling my preorder right now.

I was speaking idiomatically.