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Elixir · Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by SOLDIER

That's why it's outselling the DS in America, right? Or maybe it's because it's like cheese you can listen to outside.

Nobody said there wouldn't be a DS Lemmings. Not like it's exclusive or anything.

lol, america.

It isn't the portability in the PSP which I care about, it's the emulation and few games. If the DS could handle SNES emulation without a long and complicated process, I'd be all for that, too.

Most people aren't buying their PSP's solely for games. If they were, well, within that lies the DS customers. People buy PSP's for it's potential as an international potable media center shit brick. So it isn't entirely a soulless handheld.

It isn't a bad handheld. It's just doing poorly.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Elixir · 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

I enjoy playing emulated games which most of the time are SNES games with an actual SNES controller displayed on my big 24 inch lcd screen or to the television which is even bigger. Besides, I'd have to go through all that firmware bullshit if I bought a PSP now to do that.

I'm pretty sure downgrading to 1.5 from 2.0(which is the standard, as far as I know) isn't a hassle. What about the SNES games which were rereleased for the GBA, or GBA games in general? Don't you play them because of how small the screen is?

You seem to have no trouble with the DS' screen size, yet you're picking to pieces the PSP which has a larger screen.

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Portable Taiko? You look me in the face and tell me this is more fun without the actual drums.

='D You definitely don't own a Taiko title. The drum I have(which isn't a fault, it's throughout every single drum) is unresponsive, and you need to smack it quite hard for a response. I mean you actually need to hit it with quite force. I've enjoyed Taiko games on my PS2 with a controller. So yes, Acer, Taiko without drums is fun.

Also, I noticed you mentioned 8 must-have titles. The DS doesn't even have that yet. What's the comparison in there? I can think of Ouendan, Phoenix Wright, Bomberman DS, Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Jump! Superstars, Tetris DS, let's say Animal Crossing, Mario Kart DS. Except that list is invalid because Bomberman DS is a personal favorite of mine; Jump! Superstars and Ouendan are both imported. Not every person is going to want to play the must-have titles; not every person likes what everyone else does. How many people do you think bought a 360 for Oblivion, even though there'll be some who aren't interested in other 360 titles?

So yeah. I wouldn't say that 8 must-have PSP titles is a requirement, but more an exaggeration. I know you're biased, so I won't continue. I have a DS and no interest in the PSP myself but at least I'll give it the benefit of the doubt.

so i herd the ps3 wos gonna play games?

Edit: I'm not going to derail this thread anymore, there's been enough of that. It's funny how if this were the PSP Discussion thread this conversation would never of taken place. But yeah, you're entitled to your opinion, as am I, yet I can tell from your words that you're mostly centering on what the DS needs and has, instead of what the PSP already has and could possibly get. Positive before negative, sir.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Elixir · Local time: Apr 6, 2006, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

I see you read very little of my last post. =/

The DS has given me what I want to the extent that it's breaking my wallet and I can't get enough. How is that biased? The PSP offers me a whole lot but not in regards to gaming. I'm sure I'll get a PSP one day when the price has dropped and there plenty of games that I want to be had.

This makes absolutely no sense. If I hadn't of read your last post I wouldn't of had quote after quote in replying to it. I said you're biased because you've been picking to pieces the PSP which you probably wouldn't do with the DS.

No doubt the DS is a better handheld in most forms, but I'm not about to completely rule out the potential of the PSP.

Quote:

I remeber the PS1 when released in Australia was in the AU$750 range (and back then CD players did not cost that much). So I would not be surprised by the time PS3 reaches here it's gonna cost AU$1000. Now who the hell would get a console system at that price is beyond me. But since there will be so little of these initially, I can see all the Sony fans snapping these at that price or even beyond at release time and there will probably be shortages which may/not work for/against Sony by generating more hype

I think you mean the PS2. The PS2 was $750 AU, or $1000 NZ. And trust me, there was a large portion of people who purchased a PS2 for that price. It's idiotic to pay that much, but if you really can't wait until Sony have improved on their next generation console, ironing out bugs and issues, you get what you pay for.

How ya doing, buddy?

Elixir · Local time: Apr 6, 2006, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Qwarky

And I wonder how many times Acer mentioned he thinks the PSP has massive potential. Maybe this is why he said you didn't read his posts properly.

Once.

Originally Posted by SOLDIER

Take it out to the PSP thread.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Elixir · Local time: Apr 6, 2006, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Don't get me wrong. The PSP has enormous potential but so far it's not been used all that much in its game lineup.

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

I’ve stated that the PSP has a lot of potential and that its media features have done some great things for people.

Okay, fair enough. I do suppose recognition of what he's previously mentioned could count as twice.

But while super moderators are in the position to freely derail threads, I am not. I'd rather not get into this(otherwise I'd bold a few comments which felt biased which Acer had, in an endless chain of quotes) for the thread's sake.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Elixir · 06:13 AM

And now that you're saying that you didn't derail the thread? Holy fuck, open your eyes.

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

On the topic of Lemmings... why is PSP getting a Lemmings game and the DS is not? That hardly makes sense considering the DS would provide much better control for such a game. And really why do they even think PSP owners would be a good target audience for that kind of a game anyway?

What does this have to do with PS3? This is the PS3 thread, is it not?

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

The only thing PSP has going for it besides fancy graphics and oh god it's a freaking Lemmings game whoopee for graphics is that the PSP has a nice wide screen.

Comments like this are clearly biased. And off topic, at that. I don't know if there's another term for it, because I'll admit, I'm pretty fucking spot on here. I'd like to know just why you're allowed to derail a thread and throw shit around regardling to stuff that isn't even related to the PS3, and then claim that I have no point and that I need to explain myself over yet again because you can't see it.

Take it to the FUCKING PSP THREAD. You're meant to be representing Gamingforce here, not degrading it with rubbish like this. You can't seriously begin to think you can member moderate me for something that you did. Throwing your power around only proves how weak your conversation is. Also, I'm entitled to sleep, and I'm entitled to quote you on something whether the conversation has passed or not. Stop making it sound like I've comitted some god awful crime.

My point has been clearly made. You derailed the thread and defended the DS in a biased, ruined manner in a completely wrong thread. I already said much earlier in this thread that I didn't want to derail this thread by replying to you, but since you managed to get the ball rolling I do suppose there's not much stopping you from continuing. Please stop.

Originally Posted by PS3Land.com

Sony has announced that it will host its pre-E3 press conference on Monday 8 May, two days before the expo officially begins.

Last year, Sony was originally due to deliver its conference on Tuesday, but then changed it to Monday afternoon. It seems they preferred the new day, and so have stuck to it for this year as well.

The press conference will be held is the same location as well: the Sony Pictures Entertainment Studios in Culver City, California.

Although Sony have not announced what the conference will be about, it'd be safe to assume the PlayStation 3 will make some sort of appearance.

Microsoft has already set the date for its pre-E3 conference as Tuesday 9 May at 11:30am.

E3 2006 runs from Wednesday 10 May to Friday 12 May.

Source

I'm quite interested in seeing what they dish out. Mainly Sega's Fifth Phantom Saga is taking my interest, as I've seen quite alot of screenshots and movies of the game and it looks simply awesome. I'm not usually one for first person shooters myself, and Sega are known for releasing a mixed bag of games, anything from Sonic 3 to Shadow the Hedgehog. Nevertheless, it does look awesome, so if there's any news about it at the press conference or E3 for that matter, I'm going to be stoked.

Edit: I know a maturity call is an act of elitism, but ::unsubscribes from thread::

FELIPE NO

Elixir · Local time: Apr 14, 2006, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by SOLDIER

"Reports"=Rumors.

Originally Posted by Article

The following information has been validated by multiple sources that are involved in early PS3 development.

Insert five letters here or more so I can hit the damn post reply button.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Elixir · Local time: Apr 14, 2006, 11:45 AM

Yeah, because developers develope games for next generation consoles they haven't the first clue of. That makes sense.

I think the article rings true. And sony can delay the console as much as they like, though delaying the console can only be a positive thing, as it gives developers like Ubisoft more time to add extra features and detail to their games.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Elixir · Local time: Sep 29, 2006, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Wow, those roads are really realistic. The same can't be said for the cars though.

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Are they still tanks that don't get dents or scratches or mud or dirt or anything? =/

It wouldn't be Gran Turismo if they did.

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Elixir · Local time: Sep 29, 2006, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

Instead of them working on enviroments I don't see why they aren't working on the FUCKING CARS. Seriously, they're heading in the wrong direction here. In this picture you can see that the cars don't look finished, and the only thing I've seen an improvement in them over GT4 is the shadows and lighting.

Also, I like their road signs.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Elixir · Local time: Sep 30, 2006, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

GT5 is a mid 2008 title. What was shown at TGS was admitted by the director himself to be something they cobbled up quickly. You can see the lighting hasn't even been applied to the track (that's why the car looks so out of place), the car itself needs some more light maps.

So what is this sample business I hear about being available at the PS3 launch, possibly a downloadable pay-for-play feature? I'm assuming this is something like Gran Turismo 4's "Prologue" but I haven't played that so I don't know if it's an actual independant game.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Elixir · Local time: Sep 30, 2006, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

GT:HD comes without cars or tracks, and you purchase them via microtransactions. IIRC, to get all the cars and tracks you'd have to spend ~$300-$400.

So basically it's a waste of time. As if the PS3 isn't going to be expensive enough, but you have to cough out further for a beta version of a game which won't even be released the same year. And the beta is released in january, a year and a half before the actual product is released.

That sounds like mega bullshit. It also sounds like Metroid Prime: Hunters, which takes up the same scenario, except the demo was bundled with the DS for free. I'm not one to be fussy, but paying for "virtual cars" or "virtual tracks" with actual money is garbage.

People could probably question that with "well, you buy a game to play in a virtual world, so what's your point?" but you're actually physically purchasing something and physically obtaining something which could be credited for if it were, say, stolen. I don't see why people should have to pay more just to be aheaad of the rest.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Elixir · Local time: Sep 30, 2006, 04:38 AM

Are they releasing this beta thing in january of 2008 to simply pool money, or is it actually a preview? Because I mean, I've seen Prologue on sale the same time Gran Turismo 4 was. That's probably because it was selling well.

Or it could've been left over stock from not selling them, I don't know. Was GT4: Prologue good? Gamespot's not coming up with anything for it, it's just directly linking to Gran Turismo 4 itself.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Elixir · Local time: Sep 30, 2006, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by RacinReaver

I think for six hundred fucking dollars they could throw a short Jak & Daxter game my way. Hell, when I bought my stupid Soundblast 16 card I got six fully functional (and pretty decent quality) games with it.

Besides, Sony (and Microsoft) still hasn't come up with a mascot, and the only way they could ever hope to do it is if they do a launch title along with the system.

Lots of effort was placed into the first Jak & Daxter even though it was terribly short. Then the series seemed to take a really odd turn for the worst with this mutated looking Jak.

Everyone's going to be judging the PS3 by it's launch titles and graphics of them so I don't think anything like that will happen.

FELIPE NO

Elixir · Local time: Oct 10, 2006, 06:54 PM

Shit, those were fake? Nevermind.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Elixir · Local time: Oct 11, 2006, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Mucknuggle

The only reason why I want one on launch day is to sell it on eBay and make easy money.

Except this isn't going to work because people will be signing up ebay accounts and bidding on PS3 ebay auctions deliberately to ruin them. Yes, I can see people boycotting PS3 auctions before they've even began. All the grand parents, mothers and fathers will be so pissed off.

It's sad because people don't grasp this concept. You aren't guaranteed to resell a PS3. The same thing happened with the 360.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Elixir · Local time: Oct 11, 2006, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by DragoonKain

Waiting in line for this kind of stuff drives me up a wall. I'm sure not everyone will agree with me on this, but it is so damn childish and juvenile.

So is buying a PS3 for the entire purpose of selling it on ebay for your own profit, but people won't learn.

Seriously, don't do it. I can't stop you, but it isn't right. People will legitimately be bidding on PS3 auctions in a desperate attempt to obtain one before christmas, people will be boycotting them with 0 feedback accounts, people will be selling PS3 stickers, emails, hats, dogs, pens, and everything under the moon when it comes the time.

It's basically going to be a clusterfuck of aids. Everyone likes money, but the PS3's so popular you won't be able to resell them.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Elixir · Local time: Oct 11, 2006, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Mucknuggle

How exactly is it childish? Mean, perhaps. But childish? Come on.

Okay.

Let's say somebody buys a PS3 on launch. They've sold out of consoles america-wide on the first day. You can't purchase them in stores until they've restocked, which won't happen for a few weeks. But, you have one. So, you stick an auction on ebay with an insane profit margin.

Meanwhile, half of the kids in america still want one. They have their parents, with credit cards, hop on ebay in hopes to purchase one. They're aware the price is higher than purchasing one from a store, but they still do it. And in the process, you have people ruining people's chances of getting one through ebay thanks to boycotting.

And then you have the person with the PS3, who either gets a slap in the face thanks to boycotting (which is bound to happen on every single PS3 auction to ever be listed), or you have some poor parent paying way too much for something, just because their kid wants it now. It's like taking candy from a baby.

How is this not childish? You're not meant to purchase something deliberately to turn around and sell it for such an insane profit. And people just know this will happen, so instead of enjoying what you have, you profit from the situation which wouldn't even take place if Sony had supplied more units.

Like I said, I can't stop you, but it's extremely childish. The same could be said if a store was selling PS3s for double the price, but I don't expect to see that happen. Most people will either be able to get one, or not get one. I can't see ebay coming into the picture at all.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Elixir · 11:03 PM

No, you don't understand. People will boycott the auctions by bidding on them with recently created ebay accounts to high prices. It really isn't difficult to understand what's going to happen here. People will simply bid with absolutely no intention on purchasing the product listed, just to ruin the PS3 auctions for others.

It happened for the 360. I'm just assuming it'll happen again, except there's so much hype for the PS3, it's just bound to happen.

Also: http://cgi.ebay.com/Playstation-3-Pr...QQcmdZViewItem

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Elixir · Local time: Oct 12, 2006, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Slayer X

Resistance
Ridge Racer
Full Auto 2
Genji 2
Assasin's Creed
MotorStorm
WarHawk

Non of which are sports sims

Hey guys, apparently racing isn't a sport anymore.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Elixir · Local time: Oct 12, 2006, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Slayer X

??? Thoes arn't sports sims!!!

Ridge Racer is futuristic cars doing physically impossible drifts.

Full Auto 2 is racing with guns, do I need to explain this one?

MotorStorm is possible, too bad it's not a sim, but an arcade racer.

Man, learn how to read before you go bashing something that you either don't understand or can't comprehend.

Now you're just finding excuses. Racing games are racing games, which fall into and under the catagory of sports. It's as simple as that. Clearly you're a PS3 fanboy who only shines the positive side of PS3, when it so very blatantly has sports titles already coming for it. Will those fail? Possibly, but you won't be mentioning them if they do.

The 360 has sports titles as well. Granted, I wasn't impressed either. But most console launches these days also come with a couple of sports titles. It's just the way it goes.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Elixir · Local time: Oct 13, 2006, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Slayer X

It's the Sony thread not the Xbox thread, what do you expect? Hell people in the Nintendo and Xbox threads bash the PS3 all the time. It's about time someone returned fire.

Yes! Let's bash other consoles in this thread because other people are bashing this console in another thread!

THAT'LL TEACH 'EM

FELIPE NO

Elixir · Local time: Nov 12, 2006, 01:35 AM

Hey look, more games with Resident Evil control schemes.

Anyway, here's a bunch of pictures I found here which show the PS3 pretty thoroughly.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Elixir · Local time: Jan 27, 2007, 09:16 PM

PS3's are now officially $1200 NZD here. That's $840 US dollars. Games will be $150 NZD ($104 US) a piece.

Yeah, no comment.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Elixir · Local time: Jan 27, 2007, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

Jesus. Elixer, pal, give us some perspective here. How much does the PS2 cost over there (as well as its games)? And if you can remember, the launch price for that machine.

It's almost as if these jokers don't want this thing to sell.

The PS2 was $1000 at launch here. Games were $100-120 max. I remember they dropped to $600-700 or so in 2002 which is when I picked mine up. I had to hp it for 2 years since I was only 16 at the time.

In March 07, when the PS3 will be released for $1200 here, you'll alternatively be able to purchase a retail PS2 for $200 and which often includes a platinum (greatest hits) game.

So basically for the price of a PS3 here, you can purchase a PS2 and roughly 20 games (throw another one in there if you get a free game with the console). If you want some games for the PS3, it'll be $1550 for a PS3, 2 games and an additional controller. That's $1077 USD. I'm not sure what all the above listed is in USD nor do I even care because I won't be purchasing one.

That's the 60GB PS3 I'm talking about, anyway. It's a little difficult to comprehend Sony's reasoning behind this. If I read correctly, UK will pay $2 USD less for the PS3, which will still be 425 pounds/$848 (I think; off the top of my head) USD.

A little price comparison in New Zealand dollars would be:

PS3 60gb console: $1199.95
Xbox 360 Pro console: $679.95
Wii console: $499.95

There's nowhere I can't reach.