[Manga] Civil War Discussion Thread

I love it. It's so much better than House of M and Infinite Crisis. All of the tie in issues have been fantastic, unlike the HoM and IC tie-ins. Frontline is turning out to be just as great a read as the main Civil War series. The art and the writing in CW are both fantastic. I cannot wait for more.

I'm on Captain America's side. As much as I dislike him (due to how he has treated the Thunderbolts in the past among other things), he's got the right idea this time. Stark and co. are just wrong. I'm anxiously anticipating Spidey's switch to Cap's team.

Perhaps what has me most curious is finding out which characters will abandon the life of a superhero and which characters will die. Millar has commented on how he disliked Infinite Crisis' mass murdering of heroes and how he wants to make any deaths in Civil War actually mean something. I have no idea who's going to get killed, but I can't wait to find out. This is going to cause some great story arcs in the future.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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What issue did this happen in?

Uhh... Civil War #1.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

BM - you need to start downloading books. If you would like suggestions on what to check out, feel free to ask. I read a ridiculous amount of books each week.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I thought that Thor was returning in the Fantastic Four book...

Also, what is Jetsam?

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Like Sensational Spider-Man 28? That was an absolutely fantastic issue. You all must read it.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Ya, the Speedball stuff is great. I'm really anticipating the next issue of Frontline so that I can see where they are going with it.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Nah, I think that they are aiming to make out the Pro-Reg side as the villains in the story, so I doubt that we'll be seeing much sympathy towards them. I'm pretty sure that Spider-Man is going to be the central figure in the coming issues.

FELIPE NO

Alright, so I'm reading the Newsrama interview with the editor of Civil War - Tom Brevoort.

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NRAMA: So don't leave us hanging here Tom - you can't just walk away here after that ending - got a few teases for issue #4?

TB: Okay, we've already said that issue #4 includes a death, a funeral, a betrayal and a team reborn. So somebody's not making it out of the book in one piece, and you're about to see a major status quo shift for both a team and a book in the Marvel U.

And Thor is the fifth tease.

Predictions - Death & Funeral - Captain America (actually, I have no idea, but he is getting the shit beat out of him in #3...)

Betrayal - Spidey switching sides

Team Reborn - Avengers, obviously.

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Originally Posted by Dark Nation

Something tells me that Spider-man might be killed off.

Yes it would be a major upset (As would Cap's death), but it would also prove to be one of the most emotionally powerful reasons for the Civil War to stop (I expect him to be killed near the end of the war).

It would really be some brass balls of Marvel to do this, but its about time somebody that everyone knows gets killed off.

Thor's involvement will certainly be interesting to see.

Never going to happen. He's got his solo monthlies. Ah, it's going to be MJ or Aunt May. That would lead to Parker switching sides for sure.

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The FF breakup has been spoiled in the solicitations already. Half of them (looks like Thing and Reed) and Pro, and Sue and Johny are going to be against it. The only question that remains now is will Sue stop being "neutral" and actually fight?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I agree, but for now he's with the Pro reg people.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Actually, I just read the details on the Civil War panel at the latest Con and they've stated that Ben will finally decide that he is against Reg and will be moving to Europe instead of fighting against it.

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It is story. I think that the comparison to other wars is a great idea. It certainly makes the whole Civil War concept seema lot more significant as a piece of fiction.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Yes, it definitely matters. There should be a reading list somewhere on the net. Google for one.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I read everything as it's released, so I don't check anything for my reading order. I think that Marvel released a Civil War checklist, so that's probably in order.

FELIPE NO

That doesn't seem to be the reading order. It's just an alphabetical checklist. The best thing to do is to check up on the release dates for the books and read them as they came out.

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OMG. I can't believe that they FUCKED THIS UP. Now I have to wait ANOTHER month to find out who dies in issue 4. I'm friggin pissed. And on top of that, they haven't dalayed all CW related books?! WTF. Now I'm going to be reading stuff way out of chronological order and get totally confused/spoiled for the delayed books.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Acro-nym

But his writing is the reason I stopped getting MK Spidey and would've avoided President Thor, had it been my place to decide. Granted, Ultimates is awesome and Ult. FF is currently okay (I don't know about this week's yet) but that's about it. To each his own, I suppose.

Blasphemer. Ultimate Fantastic Four has been FANTASTIC ever since Mark started writing it. Marvel should have kept him on the book.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Acro-nym

Haven't we had this discussion before? And given his current tendency towards lateness, I'm not sure they should've kept him on the book.

Have we? I don't remember. Also, I have a feeling that McNiven is the one delaying Civil War. Maybe something bad happened to one of them?

But ya, splitting Ultimates 2 #12 into two issues and then delaying them was a slap in the face. I'm glad that I don't pay for them.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Alright, so I feel like a jerk for getting all antsy. Hitch made me realize I was wrong. Solid decision by Marvel. Multiple artists really do ruin books.

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Originally Posted by Acro-nym

That's a lot to read, especially this late at night, but I want to comment on this part. Is this really going to be considered the best work he's ever done? Maybe he's forgetting Meridian. Maybe he doesn't realize that McNiven's art doesn't really suit the Civil War story. Maybe he means in a sense of, "This is what he'll be remembered for."

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Doesn't fit the story? Uhh... I find it perfect. Ok, well, that's just another area where our tastes disagree.

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Last I checked cable simply had cybernetic implants...

I was speaking idiomatically.

Heroes for Hire was pretty awesome. It was a fun book to read. It had its serious bits, but the main focus was on comedy.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Venom, yay. Except it's not Eddie Brock and I have no idea what's been up with him for years.

FELIPE NO

Cap dies in 4. This is going to be sweet.

EDIT: this is my personal guess based on the solicits and preview.

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Thor's a god. I'm sure he just feels like putting people in their place. I assume Ragnarok pissed him off JUST A BIT.

Jam it back in, in the dark.