iPod or Zen?

Originally Posted by PiccoloNamek

A fifth generation iPod with Rockbox installed is where it's at, in my opinion.

I've heard some of the iRiver products are very, very good as well. Some of them also have Rockbox builds made for them.

What is Rockbox?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I checked out reviews of the Vision:M - it's really thick. Ugh. While I prefer it's extended battery life to that of my iPod Video, I think that I still would have bought the iPod had the Vision: M been out at the same time due to the thickness.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Storm Petrel

I still don't understand, is a couple more millimeters of thickness going to kill you? And not only does the Zen have a much longer battery life, remember the audio quality, it's always going to superior to that of the iPods.

It's twice as thick, or a little bit more. This will cause problems when sticking it into the pockets of my pants.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Capo

What Merv is saying is true. It's a bitch when you have more music than can possibly fit on your iPod.

It's really not. I have about 85 GB of music and a 30 GB iPod Video. I have no problems choosing what I want to listen to and adding it to the iPod. If you have trouble deciding what to put on it, then you're going to have the same problems with other players.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Capo

It's in the way they chose to make it, not my inability to choose certain music over others. With a drag-and-drop interface it would be easy, but with the little checkmark boxes, it's damn annoying.

Also, ORLY, double the thickness would be a considerable difference, dontcha think?

I do drag and drop with my iPod. I simply use the menu limiters at the top to limit the songs displayed by the artist, genre, album, or any combination of the three. Then it's a simple CTRL+A, a drag and a drop.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by PiccoloNamek

Because it simply isn't?

Here is how I like to organize my music:

My iPod's root directory is my top-level domain. And then everything is organized like this:

Mp3\Genre\Album Name\ (And Disc number, if applicable.) Everything is organized exactly like this, always. If a song is from a video game, it will always be under \Video Game Music\. If it is from an anime show, it will always be under \Anime\. All electronic music that isn't from an anime show or video game goes under \Techno\. I don't bother to divide that by sub-genre. Any kind of classical music (you know what I'm talking about) goes under \Classical\. I also do not divide this by sub-genre. \Rock\ is for rock, and \Pop\ is kind of a catchall folder for anything that doesn't fit in the other folders. Knowing this, and, of course, having all of the album names memorized, and what genre they belong to, I can find anything I want in seconds.

This kind of organization scheme simply isn't possible with the default iPod OS. But Rockbox makes it a reality.

Umm... sorry, but you're wrong. You can do exactly that with an iPod. Trust me, that's how I find the music that I want to play.

Double Post:

Originally Posted by PiccoloNamek

The biggest thing that bothered me was trying to organize multi-disc OSTs. With my system, I can just click on the album name and navigae to \Disc 1\, \Disc 2\, etc, but I couldn't find an easy way to do this with iTunes and the default iPod OS, so I ended up having to make each disc into its own album, which just cluttered up my list.

Add a disc number to the Id4 tags and the iPod will sort the stuff by Disc/Track #s.

How ya doing, buddy?