[Movie] LOST

I don't so much want an explanation of the monster so much as to see it kick ass again. Or if its only purpose is scan brains and uproot trees for the sake of it then it can go, because they rarely do anything with it and its lack of even apparent consistency makes it seem like a false threat overall.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I also was expecting them to run into the monster. I was like oh snap, they're deep in the mothafuckin jungle, I know the monster is somewhere around here.

I can just hear Ana now, "What the hell is that thing!"

That would have been Charlie's 3rd encounter with it, which would have been lol'in.

Like I said, it's not so much that I want to see it kill something or be explained or some shit, but it's gotten increasingly gay since the pilot. It pretty much went from: thing that kills dudes -> thing that kills dudes but happens to like Locke -> thing that kills dudes in hallucinations -> thing that grabs dudes by the leg and drags them but it easily scared (not destroyed) by dynamite -> thing that scans your head and runs.

Should we be afraid of it? I DON'T KNOW. Yet somehow it's better to think so than it is to be unsure. Same goes with not pushing the button. Killed by ambiguity.

Well supposedly episodes 21-25 are supposed to be really good and involve the map that Locke saw (gasp; in the same season?)

Waiting for Walt/Locke/Desmond to show up again. Waiting for this Alex - whom I swore was supposed to be a recurring character by now - to be a recurring character by now.

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Because he's not Michael Keaton as was originally planned, I guess.

He actually bores me more than any of the other male characters, though. I guess because he's so... Plain. He's not a drug addict or torturer or conman or drug lord or hitman; he's just a doctor. Locke is rather normal in a similar sense however he's mysterious in his ability to walk and he actually drives the plot forward a lot. I mean, the whole hatch development is his gig.

Imagining Michael Keaton as Jack makes me lol.

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Apparently the black smoke isn't it's "full form", which is funny. Because before Season 1's finale, they said "we'd get to see 5% of the monster". Then after 23rd Psalm (Eko's episode) Javi said we had seen "quite a bit!"

So unless the thing transforms into Maximums Prime we saw the whole thing the first time we saw it skirt by in the jungle, it just get's bigger.

Wow.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I don't think pwning your dad's career is as badass as shooting a dude in the head when you're a kid, or witnessing your parent's death, or being forced to try to murder a dude (Jin), having your kidney stolen, etc.

I'm just saying like for him to occupy so much screen time he has one of the plainer backstories. All he basically did was the right thing; his situation was hardly morally or ethically ambiguous. Sure it was difficult that it was his dad he had to burn, but meh.

Anyone notice the number of characters who are indirectly or directly responsible for someone's death? Someone on the fuselage pointed it out.

Ana-Lucia - killed the dude who killed her child, killed Shannon by accident, but also killed Goodwin (damn)
Charlie - shot down Ethan
Eko - shot a dude at a very young age; presumbaly killed plenty other guys
Hurley - indirectly caused the deaths of two people
Kate - killed her father (or step father? I never truly understood her plot)
Sawyer - Killed the man he thought was Sawyer

Am I missing anyone? The island is filled with murderers.

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Pre-emptive spoiler for S.O.S.

Spoiler:

Bernard-Rose Centric

Bernard is basically the only rationally acting individual to date he wants to know why everyone is becoming so comfortable in there environment. The food, the hatch, the others, people are becoming too comfortable EKO and Charlie are indeed making a Church. He can’t understand why everyone isn’t trying constantly to get off the island. He gets some people to help him with an S.O.S. sign but Rose gives him a hard time and eventually everyone deserts him.


They met recently he pushed her car out of the snow and she asked him out.
They dated for 5 months then asked for her hand in marriage while at Niagra falls.
She tells him she’s dying of Cancer and has about a year left. They still marry.
On honeymoon he brings her to ISAAC ULURA a faith healer in Australia. (Ayers Rock)

He says the geological location of the rock helps heal through him or something like that.

She didn’t know about it until she got there. ISAAC was going to try to heal her and had the same type of reaction Claire’s Psychic had. He said “I can’t heal you but that doesn’t mean you can’t be healed.”
She decides that she will tell Bernard that the Healer fixed her so he would stop trying to (“Save her.”)

As we can all guess she is somehow healed due to the islands mystical powers. She can just feel it she felt it as soon as she crashed on the island. She tells him she had lied about being cured by the healer but is now cured by the island and is afraid of returning home. Her and Bernard decide that they will never leave the island. Slightly before this she is sitting with Locke on the beach.

Locke starts by trying to draw the map from memory and is very frustrated. He almost forgets about the numbers. The preview we saw last week with Henry and a Devilish grin is caused by Locke yelling at Henry through the door. (Did you or didn’t you push the buttons!?) Locke goes off to the beach to sit and think. When Rose comes to sit with him.

Dialogue about Bernard.
Rose - you’ll be up and around in no time.
Locke- Jack says it’ll be at least 4 weeks
Rose – Yeah but you and I know it’s not gonna take for weeks.

Both stare at each other with a grin.


Henry is refusing to talk to anyone and Jack obviously went out to discuss a trade for Walt. Which Henry says they will never give up Walt. He brings Kate since they don’t want her since they never intended to keep her once she was captured. They get caught in Rosseau’s net Kate.

Kate tells Jack about the Medical Hatch and the disguises. Why didn’t you tell me because I’m not in the CLUB anymore. You kept a guy in the Hatch for a week and didn’t tell me. YADA YADA YADA They get to the spot where Zeke was and Jack shouts and shout till he loses his voice.

She’s sorry for kissing him and he says I’m not. And they have a moment but right then a torch is seen zigging zagging coming closer. Hear a man panting and he collapses right in front of them face down. They turn him over he has passed out. It’s Michael.

No we go through everyone on the island to some music from the record player Locke continues to draw his map. Charlie and EKO building church. Hurley and Libby doing shadow puppets. Jin touching Suns belly. Claire and Arron laughing. Sawyer looks lonely and Vincent runs up to him and he gives him some food and a pat. Rose and Bernard holding hands.


Then you see Rose at the airport drop her meds and Locke wheels by picks them up and hands them to her. SHE KNOWS HE WAS IN A WHEELCHAIR yippeeee

That I think is the whole shebang oh and Kate and Jack gets out of the trap by Jack taking one shot and shooting the rope. Kate missed her first shot.

Surprisingly disappointing; nothing much to talk about or theorize over for the two week break.

Supposedly after this two week break it's a consistent run of episodes up until the finale? I heard the last few episodes are supposed to be great; we find out what the ? is and what the hatch has been for, etc. The finale is supposed to be catastrophic. I'm wondering how so.

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Originally Posted by BZ

So is their a new ep today, or do repeats start this week?

Yes there is.

I believe next week in place of Lost they're showing Alias (I may be incorrect), which ends this season. The week after that is a dreaded clip-episode. Although clip-episodes are probably pretty necessary since Lost is so complex and it's hard for people to get in to it during the middle of it.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Meh, I only watched this Episode because of Bernard. I like how it totally slipped my mind and I ended up watching 30 minutes into it.

Michael talks about going to get the Others, yet somehow I doubt that'll happen for a while. He says they're unarmed, but then again when we saw the Others without their costumes, they looked like they had a serious gig going on. Maybe he saw them while they were in their costumes and don't have a full picture?

Why didn't Kate/Jack put together that the Others are in costumes?! Or at least consider it? Are they retarded?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Basically this episode's development was, "If you didn't think Jin's sperm was healed, and if you question that Locke was actually paralyzed, here's proof that the island heals people."

Which explains why like three different people died over reasonable lengths of time.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Apparently there is. Rose's cancer meant death for her but was cured by the island. So was Locke's paralysis and, if I'm not mistaken, there are currently only theoretical cures for paralysis. But Boone gets beat up and dies, Shannon gets shot once and dies pretty much immediately.

What's his name, the dude who was watching over Kate died after quite a bit of time, and the guy that in the tail section who broke his leg and got an infection died. My guess is that the infection took a few days to destroy him. Locke and Rose's cure was instantaneous the second they woke up from the crash, so why isn't it that within a few days or a few hours one cannot be healed so incredibly? Okay, maybe not from a bullet or even a brutal plunge to the ground while inside of a plane. But a bacterial infection in a wound? Why not?

There's a few logical solutions to this:
1. Inconsistency in the writing
2. Certain people are capable of being healed, certain people are not.
2b. The island "wants" to cure certain people but have others die.
3. As stated by many other theories; the survivors were tampered with before they all woke up on the island; someone or something cured them, which is odd because Kate said she remembers the entire crash (unless she's lying or somehow forgot parts of it)
4. One is healed only around the time of the crash. Jin, Locke, and Rose being cured was a one-shot deal and won't happen again.

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I'm not a believer in fate. Locke thought it was his fate to be in the hatch but it looks like it's not (although maybe the map will lead to something greater.) I personally feel that this show is just tossing the philosophical concept (along with a lot of others) around but is trying to be philosophically ambiguous.

Humans love to search for meaning in things, but all meaning is subjective and can be deciphered in different ways, and I think to an extent the show is trying to say that.

I mean who's to say some of the people sucked right out of the plane didn't have the potential to have any meaning on the island? I don't know, right after I saw the brutality of the crash and how people were dying all over the place, I lost the notion that the island (or whatever/whoever) "wanted" some people to live because it sort of came off as something rather random.

Seriously, if I landed on a super mysterious island and was cured of cancer or regained the ability to walk, I might think something magical is up too. If I lost these gifts temporarily based on an action of mine, I'd be pretty convinced not to do that particular thing ever again. That doesn't make it true one way or the other, though.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I'd probably think it were magic or something beyond my explanation. If I had THOUGHT there was a rational explanation, I'd have lost that when it seemed like I was being punished for certain acts. At that point I'd blame God/the island/somedude for it all. Especially if I thought there were a monster, that would just seal the deal of the magic island concept. Surely my rational mind would want to think otherwise, but like in real life there are times when my imgaination and doubt in reality take control of me.

So yeah, all the things happening on the island stacked on top of each other and I'd believe it were magical indeed.

The reason why I think nobody's doing stuff like exploring the island is because nobody has the same idea. Ideally you do something like that; but let's face it, people suck ass and I don't think they'd be so cooperative. Even in dire situations people can be asses instead of thinking wisely.

Some are content with getting a tan, some want to escape, some are scared, some sincerely want to know, some don't give a fuck either way. I'd probably fall into the category of "scared" as the monster + the Others pose a realistic threat and I'm a punk bitch. The monster especially is a threat to most people, and it seems like the beach (for a reason I still don't understand) is the only place it won't come to get you. I'd be with Bernard making an SOS. But if getting off were possible, I'd probably be chilling out too. Exploring the island is fine, but they have most of what they need where they are. It's something I'd put on my todo list, but not really a priority, especially when there are dangers out there like polar bears and monsters and shit.

Reasonable setbacks and red herrings (for the characters, not so much us), such as the discovery of the hatch, the discovery of the caves, the rising tides, arrival of the tailies, etc., have prevented or distracted them from going out and doing stuff, so I don't think everyone's being completely idiotic; but I would say that they're being a bit more moronic than I could accept if this weren't a TV show.

To an extent - and I know I'm guilty of this - the audience is expecting what they want to happen to happen as opposed to what's plausible to happen. At the same time, we all know we're being dicked around for the sake of the show lasting five seasons.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I like Rose. Strong black mommas are always win unless they're especially stereotypical which I feel Rose is not.

I think we all have our ideal cast based on the current slew of characters.

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Perhaps, but I think Bernard is hot and should be on every episode.

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Actually I'm wondering JJ Abrams is capable of starting, continuing, and ending a show that is good throughout, or if he just has a talent for creating great concepts and hype that ultimately sink in the long run.

Does anyone remember the first few episodes of Alias? The production values? The show was pretty much cinematic in its entirety for all of seasons 1 and 2. Now there's nothing left discerning it; it's just mediocrity. Before I knew it, I had stopped watching it but more importantly had stopped caring that I was missing it.

Alias lasted five seasons despite this being the general impression most fans got from the show. Lost seems to have timed itself for five seasons exactly although I'm imagining the plot could be accurately and evenly depicted in a total of three. However, since the show is far more frustrating when the plot is not being truly developed, I can imagine the show getting ended in a shorter amount of time.

Wouldn't it be wonderful to have three seasons of nonstop mystery and development than five seasons of comprised mostly of our frustration?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Yeah. But he's going to get him back.

I actually can't wait mostly because I don't have to hear him complain about it. That's why they made Michaeal disappear; they knew we didn't want to hear him talk about it all the time.

I was annoyed merely from hearing him say "my boy" in this past preview, evem though Michael's been missing for several episodes now.

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Recap episodes are important for a show like Lost. I believe next week begins the final few episodes.

If I'm not mistaken, some head honcho or another is pleading to ABC for a more consistent run of episodes, be it something like 24 where it's 24 straight episodes or episodes from October through December and then March through May.

I like how I wasted time watching the recap episode anyway.

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I didn't know they did.

Originally Posted by ABC Websote

Wednesday, April 26 at 9/8c
"Reckoning"
The survivors of Oceanic flight 815 have been locked in a test of faith ever since they crashed on the island. Discover how this faith has been tested for both the fuselage survivors and tailies.

Sounds pretty recapful to me.

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Well you know, Alias was fairly interesting today.

I was speaking idiomatically.

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/ is back up. Interesting stuff there.

Tomorrow supposedly begins "The Lost Experience" which is supposed to be a summer-long webgame/webmaze or whatever where you have to put together clues to advance through it. Supposedly it's not bullshit either; there's supposed to be actual plot within it. At the end of tomorrow's episode there will be a toll free number to get started. I predict busy signals and perhaps the website server not being able to handle the number of users.

http://thelostexperience.com

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I can't comment on the Season 1 finale because I didn't get into the show until the beginning of the second season, and I recall a recap episode being played before the Season 2 premiere. So it was like I didn't have to face the frustration and got instant gratification.

Well, sort of. Does anyone recall how getting into the hatch was like three episodes of utter slowness? The thing is, we still don't really know what it is. If someone who had seen the first season but had missed the second season up until now asked me, "So what's in the hatch?" I couldn't tell them. "A living space, a timer, and an old computer." It would actually appear it will take this entire season to answer the last season finale's question.

But supposedly they're not going to do the same this season finale. So said production team.

Also, on thefuselage.com and somethingawful.com, there are supposed guerilla photos of the Others camp taken by some dude. Not verified, though, but they look fairly real. I don't know who would take the time to fake them, as we all already expect an Others camp, so there's no reason to make fake photos of something we'll see anyway.

I'm worried today's episode will be something along the lines of filler or a cliffhanger. Michael just got back, and you know how it is with moving the plot in this show, so I can see him revealing just enough for us to be frustrated that we don't know more.

Originally Posted by BZ

Who would even bother with that? The show should be telling us shit in an actual GOOD way without shitty episodes and causing people to watch other things. And not make us play some dumb game.

Well there are some plot lines which are just relevant enough to be told but not relevant enough for the show. The Lost Experience features mostly characters who are not even regulars on the show. Furthermore, many people are addicted to Lost and want something to play around with/theorize on over the summer. I think The Lost Experience is a good idea and am looking forward to it.

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That twist kicked my ass. I thought it was possible that Michael might have been "converted" or at least different in some way, but I never expected this to happen.

Also, I don't expect Libby to die.

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The fact that she got shot through a pillow just leads me to believe it was set up for her to survive.

Then again, supposedly she got signed for another show and people predicted she would leave, so you could be right. I can see her not dying immediately, at the very least. Ana-Lucia seems to be dead already.

Why did it seem like water was dripping from the ceiling after Libby fell down?

Michael is a jackass. He needed to shoot himself in the face for saying "they took my boy/son" for the 20th time. I wonder if he's actually working for the Others or just doing what needs to be done. My guess is that he's working for the Others. I think some head honcho told him to get rid of the woman that killed Goodwin, and use Henry as a scapegoat. If Henry truly had failed and was doomed, then this seems fairly logical.

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Originally Posted by Sassafrass

Ana Lucia deserved what she got, that angry little uncontrolled bitch. I'm glad she got it. But one shot to the stomache seems a little....um...unrealistic. She'd have died a slow, agonizing death if that were realistic.

Yes, she probably would have, but whatevs.

I don't think she deserved to die. I actually never minded her as a character, she plays her role well, even if it's the same role as in any movie she's ever been in. I mean each character is a little annoying, and Ana Lucia certainly doesn't top my list of least favorite characters.

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

And I think Libby was carrying blankets for the picnic.

Oh, right. Even still.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.