Silent Hill movie

Originally Posted by Syphex

I am absolutely POSITIVE she said "I am the Rebirth" because I saw that trailer (or, perhaps another trailer--can't remember, but she definately said the line) in a commercial on TV. Her voice was quite clear.

Dude, look at her lips. That is a P she's making with her lips, not a B. If you don't believe me look at the mirror and say it. Furthermore there is no TH sound at the end of the word, which is audible and once again visible by her lips (her tongue does not touch her teeth.)

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Seeing it at a movie theater with perhaps other people in it. Going to buy a ticket and popcorn and a soda and then have my ticket ripped in half and given back the stub and then I'm going to walk down the corridor to the theater room and wait and watch ads while people come in and take seats. Then previews are going to start and I might be amused at one or two of them. Then the movie will stat, and I will watch it with my eyes. Then credits will come on and people will begin to leave. I will sit there until the credits are over just to avoid a crowd. Then I will get up and exit the theater corridor and leave the theater and begin to walk back home on the sidewalk and streets.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Mobius One

And then you will be alone on the sidewalk and you will not be able to see anybody. And then it will get foggy and you will begin seeing things in the fog and hearing strange noises. Then you will hear a siren and the world will go black. You will wake up in the theater alone and will watch the movie again. When you try to leave a second time, you will find that all the roads leaving are blocked. You will not be able to leave the theater. And that's when you find a lead pipe...

(popcorn SketchTheArtist)

Well, my last name is "Mason" after all.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Although to be honest I do not recall the story for any of the games being in-your-face obvious. A lot of it was ambiguous and metaphorical and to understand it you had to think through it, read around, talk about it, etc. I didn't understand Silent Hill 3 at first and Silent Hill 4 is still confusing to me. Silent Hill 2 has to be the most straightforward of all the games, but even then there are aspects which take some time to think through.

Since I've never really played through Silent Hill, I will go in there somewhat "cold" (but not entirely, since Silent Hill 3 alludes to the original a lot) so to speak and I'll see if I can make sense of the plot.

If the story truly is convoluted, I feel the movie will be lost to the critics unless all the other aspects greatly make up for this.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by sprouticus

It simply doesn't deliver it as well as the game does. It does a decent job at getting it across in 2 hours, but for a story THAT deep you really need a full 10+ hour game to do it.

See, I think this is true with a lot of games, but I have to say I feel that this is not true with Silent Hill. The depth comes from the little things, but the actual plot in my opinion is pretty concise so much that you can sum it up well enough in a paragraph.

I guess I mean to say, the plot doesn't have to be convoluted. Stick with the basics first and develop as much as possible.

How ya doing, buddy?

Sounds like this movie actually sucks, and I am disappointed. I think I will see it, but I am no longer in a rush to go and see it anymore. A part of me knew it wasn't going to possibly get good reviews.

I'm wondering what the reviews would have been like if it were not a video game adaptation. Not so much that I feel critics are just biased but rather I feel they misunderstand parts or, instead of thinking the plot through, automatically assume that the plot cannot be deciphered without having played the game.

FELIPE NO

Some of Ebert's negative reviews in general seem to be mastubatory. The whole "didn't get it" thing is a nice cop-out for being too lazy to try to figure it out an partially because they've already dismissed the movie.

I still haven't seen it, so I can't say that for sure, but I would imagine some convoluted films in the past got better reviews, perhaps just because they were convoluted.

Donnie Darko, anyone.

How ya doing, buddy?

Wow, win.

Actually, I can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me here.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by LeHah

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Don't get what you're trying to say here. Roger Ebert has understood difficult movies in the past so he's infallible when he says he doesn't understand something, or Roger Ebert has understood many difficult movies in the past so he should have made sense of Silent Hill, unless he simply didn't care to because he expected to hate the movie?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

So I heard this movie's actual plot was hardly like the game? Didn't the game have to do something with giving birth to God? (Something about Cheryl being Daughter of God, Mother of God in Silent Hill 3.)

So what does that do for sequels? Won't the plot just run terribly off course like the Resident Evil series? Also, Pyramid Head's appearance in this movie would make his appearance in a movie adaptation Silent Hill 2 pretty lame.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I don't see why you wouldn't want a sequel out of a series that has four (eventually five) games. But okay.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

But Silent Hill 4 has, pretty much, the lamest protagonist ever. He wasn't even a real character. His personality is that he doesn't have one and would rather watch other people's. This never really came to mean anything for the actual plot as far as development goes. Where the main character in every other game has to face him or herself during the game - their own sins and weaknesses and fears - Henry pretty much was just a random peeping tom at the beginning and a random peeping tom who had killed monsters, seen ghosts, and watched people around him die, at the end. Dude doesn't even at any point ask himself how he got into such a bind, he kind of just goes along with having to kill monsters. Ain't no thang.

They'd have to seriously rethink him for the movie to be any good. Silent Hill 3 is fucked since supposedly the whole plot revolving around giving Birth to God never took place in this movie?

So yeah, Silent Hill 2 is pretty much the only option.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by LeHah

This makes it an exceptionally well-done game. The main characters are suppose to be plain, boring, nondescript people so the player can emote and interact with the game.

While Silent Hill 4 does take this a bit far, the rule stands for all games. You can't attach a gamer to a character they cannot understand.

So a game gets extra points by not writing an actual protagonist, okay.

No, wait, what? Where do you get this stuff from?

If you have a game with a deep plot there simply has to be a character that you can empathize with in some type of way during their journey. This is true with any good story or it is not a good story.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Pyramid Head is pretty much James' villain. Maybe other people in Silent Hill have/do/will see Pyramid Head, but Pyramid Head really only belongs in Silent Hill 2. He really only exists to punish those who are extremely guilt-ridden, such as James.

Silent Hill is extremely ambiguous as far as what is and what isn't. Like I said before, each Silent Hill game has had a similar-but-different look to it, especially regarding the alternate worlds. In the end, Silent Hill is pretty much seen as the protagonist sees it, even if there is a universal basis for evil lurking underneath everything.

The only reason Pyramid Head was in Silent Hill is because everyone goes apeshit for him and he was truly a great villain. If Walter Sullivan had happened to be the coolest SH villain I'm sure they would have thrown him in the movie instead. I still don't feel Pyramid Head belongs in Silent Hill, but I think we were all willing to let it slide because he is extremely cool.

Or he was.

FELIPE NO