The Hip Hop/Rap Thread

Rap I can still admit to having talent, and a lot of it, even though I hate the sound of the genre as a whole. There's a few exceptions, songs that I do actually like, but a very select few. The talent is pretty much all in underground bands though.

Hip-Hop is just some stupid, 3 second repeated beat throughout the entire song, with really shitty lyrics sung by a wannabe rapper. Usually the lyrics are heavily repetitive too. No talent. If I wanted to hear the same thing repeated every 3 seconds, I'd rather listen to a Bush speech.

Yeah I know, I came in late to this thread. Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.

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Possibly. Most of what I've heard of hip-hop is what I've heard in the dorm, and what I've heard on the radio while channel surfing. I let it stay on a station for about an hour the first time, just to see what the music was like, it didn't get any better with time. Most music is like that - if I don't like it at first, I'll start liking it after awhile. Now I just flip to those stations every now and then, thinking maybe I'll catch a good song, but I never do, it's just insanely repetitive dog shit.

Hell, I even like country now that I've heard a lot of it, something I swore would never be possible.

Rap I've heard a lot more, it's insanely popular here for some reason I can't understand. We have about a 40% hispanic population though, and it seems to be a popular genre among them. I even knew a couple rappers that I had to admit were pretty good. I like the genre a lot more than I used to, but I doubt I'll ever like it enough to listen to it on a regular basis . My roomate last year had the most disgusting emo music (hawthorne heights....), but some of the most amazing rap music. Weird cross =/. And I like some music from each genre...rap more than emo...but you would figure good taste would spread across the spectrum .

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Originally Posted by Encephalon

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Originally Posted by Night Phoenix

Why would I tear him a new asshole? He's just stating his opinion. He isn't talking shit, he's just saying he doesn't like hip-hop.

Well, actually I was kind of talking shit about it. But I really do geniuinely believe hip-hop is talentless, see reasons in previous posts. I don't care if you like it or not, sure, it's another genre of music, I just don't believe it takes much talent to make a hip-hop song.

But like someone else said, it's possible I have my definitions mixed up. I don't listen to either hip-hop or rap enough to really genuinely be able to tell them apart in most situations. Hip-hop I just see as over-simplified rap, in the most basic sense. But maybe it's the other way around, and hip-hop is the genre with the few songs that I actually do like.

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I can't make a quality rap album.

I was talking about hip-hop.

But I can't make one of those either. A) I can't compose. B) I wouldn't want to if I could.

Stylistically its incredibly simple and boring. I don't find it enjoyable to listen to the same 2 chords played over a couple seconds repeated throughout an entire song with a vocal track overlaid on it. And I don't consider it a very high form of music.

But anyway, I can't sing worth a shit.

I have no compositional abilities, I'll admit that flat out. I can PLAY musical instruments, I'm fairly adept at that. I'm a pretty good Cellist, other instruments I pick up quickly. But I can't compose to save my life.

Some rap songs I actually like. Assuming I don't have my definitions mixed up as I said before.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Composing a song and listening to it are two completely different things.

I can what the composition of a song is made of. Doesn't mean I can MAKE anything.

Fits just fine.

But who knows. Maybe the stations I get around here just play the shittiest, most simplistic hip-hop they can possibly find.

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Ok, fine, I could do that. But would you consider that hip-hop? From what I've seen, I doubt it.

I don't know, maybe the radio stations in my area just play the shittiest hip-hop they can find. There might be better stuff.

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Next time I get hooked up on broadband (couple more days maybe?), I'll do exactly that. Any specific bands you want to recommend?

And yes, I'd consider that hip-hop from the songs *I* have heard before. I'd have to find someone else to do the vocals though . I hurt my own ears when I try to sing.

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Will do. I'll report back when I'm done .

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Ok, back from the dead. I was looking around for real audio samples since they are small and suit me being on dialup for the summer =/.

I could only find them for Ozomatli, but you've proved me wrong there. I don't know what the heck it was I was listening to before, but if this is hip-hop, I actually LIKE it. It doesn't sound like some shitty, over-simplified offshoot of rap.

This is odd because I was going in with a predisposition (I'll admit this) that I wouldn't like it, and the "hip-hop" I've heard before I hated, so I wasn't expecting I'd like the music right off the bat.

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I was browsing around on GFF and I'm like....oh yeah. I was supposed to check out a couple hip-hop groups, lol.

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