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Libertarianism: Marxism of the Right?
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 07:14 PM #1 of 24
Libertarianism isn't a philosophy of anarchy and no rules, and trusting people to restrain themselves. People seem to believe it's like anarchy, but it's important to realize that's nothing like that.

At the core it's the idea that everyone is free to do as they want so long as it doesn't infringe on anyone else.

Now, that put aside - I agree with the Libertarians on most social issues. However economically they scare the shit out of me. I mean, just look at the list of questions above that Kalekkan posted. I think a "Libertarian Economy" would send this country into shambles. For one thing, I know that they want completely free immigration, and the fact is, no matter how robust our economy is, it CANNOT handle the MASSIVE influx of immigrants that want to come here every year, but cannot. That's the whole reason behind immigration limits. Well, part of it. At least that's why the limits are still in place today...

Anyway, yeah. IMHO the best political system would be a mix of philosophies. Socially I like what the Libertarians have to offer, in most cases, economically...not to sure. I don't think any party has it correct there at the moment.

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Old Mar 22, 2007, 11:09 AM #2 of 24
Maybe I don't understand enough about Libertarianism, but isn't excessive drug & alcohol use indirectly very harmful to family, friends, etc? In which case I can see why it would be outlawed, unless Libertarians only outlaw things that directly infringe on the rights of others.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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Old Mar 23, 2007, 07:15 PM #3 of 24
I said that wrong. What I mean is, some forms of drunkenness, drug usage, etc, are already outlawed due to reasons of being harmful to others (dui?) and I don't see why a Libertarian adminstration would necessarily make those things lawful.

Overall though I'm not really against legalizing drug usage. Like Capo said, usage remains constant, the overdoser's would kill themselves off, ridding society of it's idiots...so it's a win/win.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Mar 26, 2007, 09:09 AM #4 of 24
There's nothing wrong with finding a specific philosophy that, as a whole, matches with your ideals. However, if you start letting that philosophy decide things for you, THAT actually IS disgusting.

I didn't discover Libertarianism until I started being disgusted with the Republican party over a lot of recent issues, and since I'm a supporter of small government (something both current major parties have totally ignored in the US) I looked around to see if there was a different party I could identify myself with.

Like I said earlier, on economic issues I don't agree with them much at all, but most social issues I do. It's something I can generally identify myself by but I don't let them shape my views. Nothing wrong with labels.

I don't understand this current trend of everyone wanting to buck "labels." There's nothing wrong with labels and it doesn't make you any more of a free thinker than someone who labels him/herself as a Libertarian, Republican, Democrat, whatever.

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Old Mar 26, 2007, 10:08 AM #5 of 24
It's more that I've seen a surge online enmity towards it recently. It's not anything new.

But that is exactly what I said. Labels become a problem when you let them shape you.

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