Japan to ban internet users for file sharing

The action still has to be initiated by the copyright holders or some enforcement agency. The ISP then sends a warning to the offender, and if successive warnings are not complied with, they cut the internet service.

And this differs from current procedure.... how?

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Look, this messageboard was founded by Americans with a heavy skew towards Japanese culture. We're not the norm. For the most part, people of different nationalities do tend to stay within their own groups. Have you been to Chinese forums? Indonesian forums? Swedish forums? The language barrier works both ways, you know. "Not using the English language" does not equate to "myopia and isolationism".

This whole argument on the choice of filesharing networks is laughable. Unless Japan starts firewalling all foreigners from their networks, there's no such thing as "isolation" on the internet. I have no problem accessing Japanese networks -- the software required is freely obtainable, all you need to do is learn how to use it. This is no different from the initial software acclimatization needed for FTP, Usenet, DC, IRC, whatever varieties of P2P programs available out there. Furthermore, it makes sense for them to stick to their own communities -- considering Japan's telecommunications architecture, it's like the difference between LAN and a 56kbps line to Hawaii (which also represents the proportion of the "international community" who have an interest in Japanese media). If you're actually complaining that they're making it hard for you to download tentacle porn and video game music, you're probably a few rungs lower in the hierarchy of nerddom.

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Originally Posted by Bradylama

I couldn't give a fuck about some Nipponjin gobbledy-gook that I can't read.

The point is that the Japanese using their own networks outside of the wider filesharing networks can't be explained away with a language barrier, because for some reason, the Russians, using a cyrillic alphabet are perfectly fine with using international filesharing networks.

NO. Any network that is connected to the Internet is inherently international. You think accessing a bittorrent tracker hosted on a server in Chicago is, in topological terms, any different from connecting to Winny nodes in Tokyo? You think Japanese P2P software is inaccessible because you can't read "Nipponjin gobbledy-gook"? There's an english language pack for Share. You think they don't index and publish their resources publicly? There's hashdb. Why piggyback on a foreign filesharing network when they have successful, homegrown solutions which guarantee much faster speeds due to the geographical proximity of connected peers?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Since you're so obssessed with BT, ever been to DMHY? Or Greedland? These are just some of the Chinese bittorrent networks that predominantly focus on Japanese media, and they frequently get crossposted to Western trackers. In case you're wondering, yes, a lot of the sharers there are Japanese too.

Now shut the fuck up and learn how to use Google.

Also 1mbps seems a little slow, how about 100mbps? Jesus, you're just talking out of your ass now.

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Originally Posted by Bradylama

Right, so because seeders get crossposted from Chinese trackers, that makes them internationalists.

The problem here is you attempting to link xenophobia to file-sharing habits. Heck, I wouldn't doubt for a moment that there's plenty of reasonable evidence indicative of an insular culture, but this particular argument is ridiculous.

I'm sure you know how bittorrent works -- a critical mass of peers is necessary for it to function as intended, otherwise you're left with a bunch of primary seeders who get saddled with the bulk of uploading duties while leechers drop in and out. Moving to an "international filesharing network" isn't going to bring about a magical influx of "millions" of peer resources or this jump in throughput that you speak of. Native english speakers who have no knowledge nor interest in a foreign language (particularly Asian languages) have little practical use for these media. Out of the 10,000 kids who download weekly subs of Nipponjin Gobbledygook only a handful of them have any adequate command of the language to peruse raws. And practically none will contribute original media for obvious reasons.

Stop and think about it -- any filesharing community concentrating on a particular specialized media will congregate where the speed and resources are. You're not getting much additional input by "internationalizing" the network (which you apparently define as "shifting to an English language bittorrent tracker hosted outside Asia"), and you're certainly not getting your filez any faster. The 100Mbps network speeds I mentioned are indeed intra-Japan -- intercontinental cables are obviously even faster, but the speeds grind to a halt once you reach the "last mile" connections around most of the world. For that reason local P2P will always be several orders of magnitude faster than what an international fellowship of nerds armed with uTorrent can push through their dinky pipes. This difference in local networking architecture is why Slit-Eye Short-Dick will not enjoy the same returns shifting to western BT trackers as the Russian filesharers you mentioned, and are vastly better off sticking to networks in their own geographical proximity.

There are plenty of other factors we could go into (like anonymity, software and trading practices), but this is the most practical one worth mentioning. It's a simple cost-benefit. No need to even argue about language barriers.

I was speaking idiomatically.