Muslim girl kicked off soccer team for not removing hijab

Originally Posted by tenseiken

silly

which I couldn't possibly care less about

It's a hat, for crying out loud

crap like that

This is the actual problem -- total lack of respect and understanding.

What's worse, tenseiken (and a whole lot of other people) probably doesn't even realize it.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

My take on the matter: complete overreaction.

No, not for the reasons tenseiken stated. The precedent had already been set when Mansour was allowed to wear her hijab for other games in the tournament. This was simply a bad call by the referee, and the sensible way to go about it would be to finish the game with another substitute and tender a complaint later. Boycotting the tournament en masse over the actions of one official, who certainly doesn't represent the entirety of the governing authorities, is simply a knee-jerk reaction which will just end up attracting unwanted and unproductive bitchfests over tangential topics (like every religious/racial controversy ever). Not to mention you've just disrupted a good part of the tournament proceedings.

This doesn't mean that Mansour has an irrevocable right to wear the hijab. If a ruling against headscarves had been explicitly stipulated in the regulations and Mansour barred from playing with the hijab from the get-go, then they wouldn't have much of a case. Consider an incident elsewhere, where a couple of Muslim students in a public school were barred from wearing headscarves in violation of the uniform code. The controversy was quickly quelled when the highest Islamic authority of Singapore (where this happened) issued a statement in support of the school authorities -- since "education was more important than headscarves" and that the rule only applied for the few hours they were in school.

Now that makes sense.

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Originally Posted by tenseiken

Wow, taken out of context like that, I look even more like a jerk, don't I? I was wondering how long it would take before my abrasive tone rubbed someone wrong. If respect and understanding is the real problem here, then what about the ref who, according to the quoted article, is a Muslim? I'm sure he understands and respects Islam more than I do.

Oh, I certainly wasn't referring to him when I said that. But if you're going to have a civil debate on, say, whether headscarves should be allowed on the football field, dismissing their beliefs as insignificant is rather unlikely to sit well with even the moderates. In fact, calling the hijab a goddamn hat is an insult to my cognizant ability.

And, to be honest, I found your shitty slippery slope argument much more "abrasive" than that. Flying Spaghetti Monster sombreros haha oh dear

(Note: by "respect" I don't mean "genuflect", it is just formal substitution for "don't be a dick")

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Well, according to Muslim faith the hijab is obligatory before puberty. How much you cover depends on how "devout" you are -- the burqa is as extreme as you can get. And there are plenty of followers who don't care either way.

How ya doing, buddy?