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XGL + Compiz
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Old Apr 25, 2006, 05:35 PM #1 of 30
Originally Posted by Cless
Also, I notice XGL seems to make a lot of the same mistakes OS X made in its first iterations and Vista is making now—that is to say "a lot of transparency everywhere."
I don't remember any transparency before Expose. Where was it? I think the only time I ever activated transparency in OS X was to get a neat-looking terminal window.

How fast does XGL/Compiz run compared to a normal environment? I've found the Composite X extension allows for some nice transparency and shadows KDE 3.5, but in other cases it simply caused problems. Also, for some bizarre reason the simple OpenGL programs I'm writing for class would show content from other windows when they were focused.

Oh yeah, and can XGL/Compiz be installed alongside x.org or would I be better off testing it on a separate install?

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Apr 25, 2006, 06:32 PM #2 of 30
I realized Xgl was an x.org extension, but unfortunately for me it's for 7.0 which is still in testing on Gentoo and I really fucked up when I tried to install it. I may, however, see if I can put up an experimental environment on my other hard drive. At least then I won't have to worry about screwing up my main system.

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Old Apr 25, 2006, 08:15 PM #3 of 30
As long as the user can control transparency it shouldn't be a problem, although then everybody gets to complain about what is/isn't enabled by default. Also, in the video they were able to enable/disable transparency through a menu which is definitely a good idea (how about titlebar buttons?).

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Apr 27, 2006, 03:06 PM #4 of 30
Just found this today (was searching for topics on Quake, which is why it's highlighted). Apparently it's a LiveCD equipped with XGL. I'm currently torrenting it, but if I can get it to work I'll let people know.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?
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Old Apr 27, 2006, 05:53 PM #5 of 30
Originally Posted by Cyrus XIII
@ Magic
OnlyJedi already mentioned that live CD in the inital post ... and indeed it's pretty cool. You'll probably like it.
Oops, I'm really good at doing that.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Apr 30, 2006, 01:47 PM #6 of 30
I tried out the LiveCD and it seems to work quite well. I'll have to experiment at some point and see about getting it set up on an actual system.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old May 4, 2006, 07:17 PM #7 of 30
I attempted to install it manually, but I couldn't get XGL to launch. Instead, I used the LiveCD's installer to copy it to my second hard drive, and in the process managed to fuck up Grub so that instead of studying for my exam I sat here trying to fix my computer.

On the bright side, it's installed now and I just have to figure out how to configure Gnome properly. It would probably help if I wasn't so damn tired and I could think straight.

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