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Old Aug 20, 2009, 10:05 PM #1 of 81
Lockerbie Bomber is free...

...and it makes me want to puke.

This guy killed 270 people, and because he has terminal cancer, he is set free. A life sentence should be just that, a life sentence. He should be rotting away in a rotten cell, left to die alone. He DOES NOT deserve the company of his family and friends. HE DOES NOT DESERVE a flight to his homeland. He deserves to die alone, with no one by his side to comfort him.

What a fucking travesty. Talk about pouring salt on the wounds of the families affected by Pan Am 103's bombing. How would you feel if your son/daughter/father/mother/etc... killer was set free because he had cancer?

I say that we arrange for a party, for whoever kills this fucker before cancer does him in. We'll greet them at the airport, and wave flags, and everything.

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Why are the scots being "compassionate" toward him... he sure as fuck wasn't towards them.

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Old Aug 20, 2009, 10:34 PM #2 of 81
But letting him go because he is dying is just as irrational. Did he show as much compassion for those of which he killed?

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Old Aug 20, 2009, 11:14 PM #3 of 81
I see your point - but why does he deserve to be surrounded by his family and friends when he dies? His victims surely didn't get that.

If I kill hundreds of innocent people, do I get a bye if I get cancer? And what's to stop me from strapping TNT to my chest and going out in a blaze of glory if I do?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Aug 21, 2009, 01:17 AM #4 of 81
I'm sure the families feel the same way there Deni.

Let me know if your loved ones get murdered, and the killer is set free because he's sick. I'm sure you'll be fine with that too.

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Old Aug 21, 2009, 01:40 AM #5 of 81
You'd be pissed exactly - so how is it fair - even unbiased fair that a murderer gets set free because he is sick and going to die. Why should he be allowed to die with his family around him, when those he killed were not. Why does he deserve anything better then to die in jail. Why does he get a get-out-of-jail-free card because he's sick? Would you feel the same way to the 9/11 hijackers?

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Aug 21, 2009, 01:52 AM #6 of 81
The system is meant to punish, and reform people who have broken the law - Other then a few select circumstances, I do not see anyone in the system worse then this man. Do they get "compassionate" terms of release?

When was the last time the Scots released a muderer on "compassionate" terms? Why do they not level their justice evenly? Isn't that the point you were trying to make? That noone in the system is special?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Aug 21, 2009, 01:59 AM #7 of 81
Be sure to show up at his funeral then, and celebrate his life. I'm sure the 270 families will be there as well cheering him on.

So deni - when did the scots do it last? When I watched the press conference, he skirted around that subject all the time - didn't give any firm answers. Only that "it's based on an individual basis." Should be a blanket though - don't you think? Nothing individual about it?

I understand there is no chance for reform - but why reward him with a free expenses paid trip back home to die around his family - what in his life did he ever do to deserve that?

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Old Aug 21, 2009, 02:13 AM #8 of 81
Yes, you're right - his release was not a propaganda tool at all...



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I'm pretty sure he's not in prison in Libya - far from it actually. He was welcomed as a hero.

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Old Aug 21, 2009, 02:23 AM #9 of 81
If he died in his cell, I guarantee you there would be much less hoopla about it then him being released. And you'd be an idiot to deny that.

Look at when McVeigh died - any big deal about that? Not particularly - defiantly not something that world leaders condemned/applauded. Now if he had been released on compassionate charges?

Why is it that justice is never dispensed fairly?

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Old Aug 21, 2009, 02:25 AM #10 of 81
I don't care who he killed - Americans, Brits, Scots, whoever - it shouldn't make a hair of difference.

And what is releasing him going to do to stop future attacks? He was pretty much rewarded a flight home to be with his family as he died - Pretty decent reward for 270 murders.

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Old Aug 21, 2009, 02:38 AM #11 of 81
Deni,

I've had family suffer and pass from that terrible disease, yet it still does not change what that man did in his life. A murderer with cancer, is still a murderer, whichever way you slice it. If you have sympathy for him, fine - I'll let you explain that to the families of his victims - it shouldn't be a problem right?

I wouldn't be able to do it. Maybe I'm hateful and small minded - but I couldn't tell a mother that it was OK her son's murderer was given a free ride home to die with his family - when her son wasn't given that at all.

A life sentence is just that - a life sentence. Why should he be released because he is sick and going to die anyways? Why should he be allowed a hero's welcome as he returns home, a triumphant murderer.The only public relations this did was make the man a hero, and he will die a hero and a martyr, more so then if he had died in Scotland.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Aug 21, 2009, 02:44 AM #12 of 81
When did Deni get appointed as al-Megrahi's? What's your point?

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Old Aug 21, 2009, 03:01 AM #13 of 81
And are you okay with going to this man's family and telling him he has to die in prison, alone and without proper care because you're mad?

I'm not defending him, I'm defending the logic in being decent rather than spiteful.

But you're cool with the hate, so good on you.
Nice skirt around the question - the scots should hire you to their PR!

And I would be fine with it - their son did wrong, he doesn't deserve a reprieve. Just because he's got cancer doesn't take away any horror away from his crime. So why does he get a reprieve when others don't?

I'm not all hateful anyways - just pisses me off when I see such a travesty of justice.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Aug 21, 2009, 03:03 AM #14 of 81
Again... Won't answer the question.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Aug 21, 2009, 03:09 AM #15 of 81
I see I've gotten a rise out of you - and you still refuse to answer the question - leads me to believe that you couldn't tell the families what you are telling me. Shows you something right there about yourself now doesn't it?

At least I'm honest about what I say.

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Old Aug 21, 2009, 03:15 AM #16 of 81
Again... No answers... Hypocrite.

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Old Aug 21, 2009, 03:20 AM #17 of 81
Meh - I told you all how I feel, and why I feel it - I understand that nothing I could say could change your minds. It's just the way it works online.

I'm heading to bed now - gotta fly in the morning. Ciao.

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