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knkwzrd · Local time: Sep 8, 2006, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Jonus

A day later or so he confessed that CIA indeed tortured supposed terrorists in the eastern EU.

No, he admitted that the CIA had prisons in Europe. He didn't admit torture.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

knkwzrd · Local time: Sep 8, 2006, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Jonus

Well i know of a german who had been captured and turtured for month just because he had the same name as a terrorist. So keep spinning some words arround if that makes things righter for you.

And sorry i have to correct myself, it wasnt bush it was Condoleezza Rice who said that:

Quote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_site
that U.S. had not violated any country's sovereignty in the rendition of terrorism suspects, and that individuals were never rendered to countries where it was believed that they might be tortured. Some media sources have noted her comments do not exclude the possibility of covert prison sites operated with the knowledge of the "host" nation,[39] or the possibility that promises by such "host" nations that they will refrain from torture may not be genuine.[40] Indeed, on September 6, 2006 President Bush finally publically admitted the existencence of the secret prisons[41] and that many of the detainees held there were being transferred to Guantanamo Bay[42].

The wikipedia quote that you attribute to Condoleezza Rice here says exactly what I said -- that they admitted to having prisons but not to torture.

Originally Posted by Jonus

I tell you what, saying that something is true, doesn't actually make it true.

All Night Phoenix did was ask questions, how does this apply in the slightest? Try to listen to you're own advice. The only source you've cited so far is a wikipedia page, and even then the information you cut and pasted didn't back up your point.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

knkwzrd · 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Jonus

And what backup does my point need? Is there anything that i could post here that would make you think about how bush makes the USA look bad? Just listen to him for a while and if you can't figure out that something is wrong with him, then something is wrong with you. In the last interview i saw he suggested that he is as important as george washington, do you understand that?

I live in Canada and politically I'm a left-leaning libertarian. I know how bad Bush is making the U.S. look. You can't assume that I support Bush because I correct something false that you have written. I have not stated whether or not I believe they used torture methods, simply that they have not admitted it. Liberals who have a "with us or against us" attitude are just as bad as conservatives in my books.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.