X-Men 3

Has anyone else seen the clip Huge Jackman took with him to Leno? It was very, ehhhhhhh. It looked kind of lame and i dont know....I'm a little worried. :-(

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Crap, the sentinels are in this movie?

I'm pretty sure I'ts a Danger Room session.

Also, I hope it's unfinished. Colossus looked way better in the 2nd movie than in this clip. But there is only about one more month till this movie is release so do you really think it is? And if so, why bring an unfinished clip to promote the film?

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I just watched the 7 minute long preview and I must say I did enjoy it. Maybe the things they showed prior to this were just bad representations of what the movie will actually by like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ8mk...20Last%20Stand

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try mid-ish 80s. That's when Rogue joined. It was in Uncanny X-Men 171.

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I dont think so, never as a complete series at least. I'm pretty sure, however, that you can buy fan-made dvds of the series on e-bay.

I was speaking idiomatically.

That's great. 4 more days till it's released over here and needless to say, I can't wait.

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never saw the show but i'd take a guess and say forge. He's the only native american character I can think of outside of moonstar.

FELIPE NO

Lehah that isn't fair. I am so tempted to see what is in that spoiler. I can imagine what it might say though.

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The changes made thus far in the X-Men movies do not bother me at all. They have managed to maintain the essence of the X-Men as well stay true to the characters (though perhaps storm is the exception). In order for the movie to have mass appeal and in order for non-fans to be able to understand the movie, things must be changed. Besides, they have enough hidden cameos and refrences thrown in there to make any fanboy happy.

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The movie definitely had its bad moments but overall I thought it was good. It was much better than the first, probably not as good as the 2nd. I did feel rather disturbed by it. Who cares if Juggernaut is a mutant in the movies? Lady Deathstrike was a mutant in the 2nd movie, big deal. It makes the world more believable when you leave out cyborgs and mysticism. I saw the movie in Australia, so when the Juggernaut said that classic line, I was the only one in the audience who got it and laughed.

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The Things I didn’t Like
-Magneto abandoning Mystique like he did. That was too out of character. I could see him not letting her help him, but he wouldn’t just leave one of his most trusted underlings like that. He’s not a dick.

-Killing of Cyclops. Granted they never actually showed him dead, and Jean just said she thought she killed him. But still, he at least needed to express his grief/disbelief over what happened to Jean.

-I didn’t like how they used mutants like Spyke and Multiple Man. Their powers are more “out there” than others and I always liked the realistic quality the X-Men films had.

-While I’m glad they made Storm cool for once, she was in the movie way too much. It really felt empty at times and it seemed like Wolverine and her were the only characters in the X-Men’s world.

-Lastly, When Wolverine Killed Jean, it was very anticlimactic and unemotional. After the amazing scene at the Grey’s House, I was left wanting more. The scene where Jean wakes up and begs Logan to kill her was much more effective than the conclusion.

-I really thought that female assistant to Worthington was Apocalypse in disguise. I was disappointed to find out she was just a normal human. I thought the movie was going to end in a cliff hanger with her being apocalypse trying to wipe out the weak mutants.

Pros
-DARK PHOENIX!!!!! Man she was amazing in this. She really gave the movie that helplessness feeling. I can’t get over how unbelievable that scene at her house was.

-I also really enjoyed the addition of Beast and Angel though Angel should have had a bigger part.

If they make a 4th movie I’m not sure if could have the same feel unless they brought Cyclops and the professor back, which looks likely (though I guess he’d be in a different body unless they cloned him or something silly like that).

Also, Jean Grey after Phoenix in the comics is not a push over. She’s a powerhouse and by far the most powerful of the X-Men.

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It might not be the way to go but it sure as hell makes for some great and disturbing movie scenes. I'm trying to write an essay over here for school and all I can think about is that damn Grey House scene. I still can't believe she "killed" the professor like that. And I never realized that they used the Shadow King's real name in the movie. But yeah, that extra scene was tight.

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Id anybody is interested (which doesn't look like, but just in case) here is the original Dark Phoenix Saga as happens in the comics.


The Dark Phoenix Saga

Uncanny X-Men 129: God Spare the Child... (parts a, b, c)
Uncanny X-Men 130: Dazzler (parts a, b, c)
Uncanny X-Men 131: Run For Your Life! (parts a, b, c)
Uncanny X-Men 132: And Hellfire is their Name! (parts a, b, c)
Uncanny X-Men 133: Wolverine: Alone! (parts a, b, c)
Uncanny X-Men 134: Too Late, The Heroes! (parts a, b, c)
Uncanny X-Men 135 Dark Phoenix (parts a, b, c)
Uncanny X-Men 136: Child of Light and Darkness! (parts a, b, c)
Uncanny X-Men 137: The Fate of the Phoenix (parts a, b, c, d, e)
Uncanny X-Men 138: Elegy (parts a, b, c)

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She was in the background when Xavier showed the Moria video in class.

I was speaking idiomatically.

rocktheparty, where did you hear about that much footage being cut? I think X2 did a good job building up the characters and plot and perhaps that extra footage was much needed to do the same in this movie.

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I really disagree with that. Professor X was not out of character at all. If anything he was frantic and knew of the danger jean would become. He was right for what he did. As you see in the movie, Wolverine's views of how things should go down was not the most pleasant.

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Professor X was destroyed by a monster of his own creation, which had already killed his surrogate son, and goes on to kill several mutants and many humans.

How does that make the Professor right

How is that his fault? He tried stopping the Phoenix, not letting it make up its own mind. As stated in the film, Phoenix was a crazy, being controled by her unlimited power, not compassion or reason.

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Thats not true. Perhaps you should watch the movie over again. he states how when jean was young she had a split personality that called itself the Phoenix that let her powers control her. His blocks put the phoenix to sleep.

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Bradylama, seriously, see the movie again. In no such way did Xavier create Phoenix.

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This was posted on an IMDB thread and I thought it was interesting.

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There was... before Singer left the franchise. For the most part, Fox been slowly trying to sabotage this franchise (i.e. moving up the first X-Men release date from July 2000 from Christmas, liminting the budgets despite its success). Supposedly, there were rumors the Fox, known for being rather conservative, wasn't fond of Singer's sexual orientation.

This is slightly hazy: IIRC, on the commentary for X2, he had laid the groundwork for the Phoenix Saga from the first film, not obviously. Fox was being cheap about the X-Men budget for the firebird in second film, remember this is the Fox "cash cow" franchise. Anyways, Warner saw what Singer did for X-Men, knew Singer's favorite superhero is Superman and dreamed of directing the franchise. Warner made him the offer he couldn't refuse as Vito Corleone eloquently put it.

Now, before jumping ship to Superman Returns since X3 was stuck going nowhere, Marsden was supposed to have a larger role in X3. Marsden and Singer are good friends, which is why he recruited James for Returns. So the Phoenix saga goes like this: As Magneto's experiment to attack by changing the world's most powerful on Liberty Island into mutants failed, it advances Jean's evolution into the Phoenix. In X2, she tells Scott she hasn't been the same since then with her telepathic and telekinetic powers going haywire. Singer mentions something noticing Jean looking at the imploding radiation machine at the end of X1. By the end of X2, Jean delivers speech about said evolution as the Phoenix soars underwater. It's the same one as Charles' in the first film's introduction, verbatim. Coincidental? I think not.

I would watch the DVDs to confirm or dismiss his vision for the Phoenix storyline, but I don't have them with me. Fox fumbled this from the beginning. There have also been interviews and briefs Singer had been planning X3 after X2's success, but nothing happened between Fox and Singer in renegotiating his contract, but also the signing of the actors and actresses involved was delayed. Therefore, Paquin and Marsden went looking for work elsewhere hence their lack of screen time in The Last Stand. We've all heard about Berry's complaints and Singer refused to give into her demands; there are also rumors he was going to write her off or reduce her role in X3. Essentially, there were a lot of backstage politics grounded the third and potentially fourth part of this franchise.

And the sad thing is if Fox could have patiently waited for X3 to be released in summer 2007 (presumably around the same time as Spider-man 3), Singer has stated he gladly would've done the third film. But Fox did everything it could The Last Stand in theaters before Singer's Superman Returns (including increasing the budget to Return's neighborhood, setting a release date before the director was set). Right now, I hear Marvel is not or hesitant about announcing a sequel until the Fox's rights to the company expire. However, all of Marvel's current projects and collaborations are still with Fox.

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This is an interview with Patrick Stewart that kind of highlights some of the failings of this movie. Especially concerning the lack of character development and the studio's push to have this film out as soon as possible.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/x_me...ype=videolarge

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I was refering mostly to the later 1/2 of the article where it talks about the phoenix in the prior movies and fox rushing the movie out to theaters.

I was speaking idiomatically.

chaofan, If you want the Dark Phoenix Saga, I posted the entire thing in the comic board here.


Also, If anyone is interested in Days of Future Past, I could also post that up.

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Though she does say that, she also says "I think I killed Scott." or something along those lines. So I think if an X4 is ever made, it could go either way.

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I'm glad he didn't. Multiple man is a rather stupid character with a power that is too unrealistic. While this might sound silly, making copies of yourself that are wearing the same clothes you are currently wearing is not as unbelievable healing quickly.

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