[PS2] Final Fantasy XII

Originally Posted by Ashton

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Your opinion is worthless

Well i do wish she'd let her hair down. That + Those really awesome tight tights = awesome.

Oh and she holds katanas/2h swords the best.

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oh come on, I'm sure alot of people find her cute since she looks like a such a little girl but whenever I see her I see she's just bleh. I don't care how tight her shorts are, I just see her like this :/


Ashe, even though kind of boyish, is still much better than panelo, My alliance stands with her

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Kairi Li

They're defending a game play system that takes hours to actually start getting fun? That is a huge game design flaw and they defend it cause, well its FF12 it has to be good right?

I mean maybe it is a each to their own thing, but I still find it hard to believe that the one FF the reviews all hail as perfection has flaws in battles (gambits plays by itself), Licence board (Need gil and LP to get cure along with the right to use equipment?),mob hunts (as if running around to find it and kill wasn't bad enough, I have to run and find the guy who wants it dead to start the hunt?) and story? ( Poor character developmend along with uninteresting plot, and don't get me started on Basch's "betrayal" twist, its a soap opera cliche)

Basch spoiler:

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"My evil twin did it! Not me! I was framed!

FF12 may be a great game to some, and mediocre for others, or even bad, but is it perfection and does it deserve such high scores? Not really, more like reviews either jumping the bandwagon, waited so long that they take whatever they can get, bribed, or just plain fanboys.

If people love this game then great, I just think that it doesn't derserve the praise as being the game of the year or perfection or some other review over glorification.

You dont know how much I agree with you there. I think I said it before that people will play this game for the name alone and thats the only reason that its so hyped up.
When I first got FFX I wanted to keep going till I beat it but I've had FFXII for almost a month now and I havn't even beat it yet. I played it for like 5 hours a day at first but now I'll be lucky to sit though it for more than 2.
I expected it to dissapoint me in gameplay at first when I first saw the trailers but then there was so much hype about it then i thought maybe its not ganna be so bad after all, then I actually played it I went back to my original thoughts of dissapointment.

I also saw a second english trailer on gametrailers.com
It explains the whole story and what your going to be traveling for. The story isn't that extensive anyways though :/

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there are only three parts to the story.
All the party members meet, you go for a long journey for some nethecite, and then I guess the revenge part :/

I also noticed that there is little character interaction between the main characters.

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Panelo has Vaan on a leash so he only has a few lines to say to other characters. I honestly thought Ashe and Vaan would have more to do with each other but I've only seen them chat a few times and sometimes not even directly at each other. And Basch eventually just becomes a pet for Ashe just following her around and agreeing to go wherever she goes. Balthier is the only one that has any real plans so he has to talk to everyone else.

I dont really like any of the reviews I've seen for this game, I think everyone is just sucking up to square. Its not a bad game at all but damn, I keep Kingdom hearts II in front of FFXII.
And some of you may hate me for this but I honestly think FFX > FFXII :/

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Slayer X

Shenlon: You think that X > XII, well I can't really argue you because I haven't played the game yet ^^; However I know that I love all the FF games (except IX) so I don't have any worries about XII. Myself I like FFVIII the best still so I'm waiting for a game to knock it of it's pedistal still (sort of)

well thats something we agree on, FFVIII is my favorite no matter what anyone says and I wasn't much of a fan of IX. You'll probably enjoy XII more than me since its not quite my flavor

Most amazing jew boots

Final Fantasy spin offs never really get perfect scores anyways.
X-2 had an enjoyable and fast battle system, but I think it was the way that rikku and yuna that acted so much like a sorority girls that was such a turn off since it was a step towards a sailor moon thing with annoying villains

EDIT:Punishment, the espers are controlled by the AI. All you can do is support them.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Other than Ashe, Balthier is the important character and doesn't tell his past till much later which is awsome. Unlike vaan and meaningless panelo :/
I played the game constantly at first but now I reduced my play time to hardly an hour a day if I'm lucky. And whenever I do play I feel like I'm just forcing myself now, this is the first final fantasy game to make me feel this way ~_~

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

The leviathan wasn't that hard for me at all

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I beat the judge and his boys with a quick combo from a quickening in one blow.

Only boss I had a problem with was the grassy one in the forest near the vierra village but thats only becuase I was unprepared and ready to shut off the game. Thats basicly the only way I ever died in the game, when my party are completely drained.

Originally Posted by Denicalis

I will never understand you kids and your FF VIII love. It has one of the most contrived, god awful story lines I've ever seen in my life. Be it movie, book, game or lymeric scrawled in a bathroom stall. The same orphanage? Space? One of them remembers the orphanage but doesn't say anything because LOL? And Squall isn't fucking worthy of being redeemed. He never does a damn thing but mope and cry. And about what? That he's mopey and unfit for command? Abso-fucking-lutely he is. And that never changes. Irvine is a coward and so one-dimensional it hurts, Selphie is a joke and not worth talking about, Quistis is practically tacked into the story, Rinoa is godawful as a love interest, Zell is at least amusing, but that's all he is, a joke character. The charisma of the characters? Jesus fucking christ, people. You must be the people who watch Smallville and call it "brilliant." They have no charisma. They're thoroughly unlikeable. I'd rather watch a Gorilla rape my grandmother than sit through VIII again. The music is top notch, and the battle system has its perks, to be sure... but it is the single worst story I've ever seen in my life. Rinoa is so convenient. And Edea at the orphanage? COME ON. I mean, how can you possibly defend this shit? What possible reason?

Honestly now, your trying to convince people how bad FFVIII is becuase of how much you hated it. I could honestly say how I hate XII but that doesn't make it a bad game to everyone.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Spatula

Ah shit, I got chased the fuck out when I was in the mines in the sky city. There are two paths to take.

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There's a path going east, and a path going north. I think the east route was blocked off and you had to take the north by default, but that ended up with the Bangaas chasing my guys, and basically almost killing my whoe crew (burned off so many pheonix downs), so could you have gotten to the east path? I'll probably go back in for the mob hunt or something.

Also, if I have a guest character, I make Vaan steal while the rest attack, this way it's pretty good chances I'll get something. I think I stole about 25 bone fragments, bat wings, and all the like.

You can actually get a hunt in the mines somewhere at that point but its in a far greater level. In fact I got so many hunts on my list that are far too strong so be catious of that

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

you mean Buujerba and the Lhusu Mines. Notice how I mispelled them =D
The 18000gil bazaar item is probably some weapons, maybe a bow. I have am Item waiting for me at 25000gil, still havn't bought it since I wanna buy weapons and magic. You have to spend your money wisely cause I noticed I havn't bought any magic for hours and techniks are pretty much useless to me unless its libra. I bought a few of those during the first 4 hours and then never got any again. All I really needed was white and green magic.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I just looked at some character models from the ultiminia book and I don't understand why they gave recks such femenine stance ^^

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I could have sworn I was staring at ashe for a second

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by rpgcrazied

I need help in raithwalls tomb.

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I managed to find a switch to lower a wall blocking a path, now im just running around in circles, and one of the teleports says not active yet.

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there should be another switch on the other side of the tomb that lowers the wall completely

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

giant turtle? is that the one in the giza plains?

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Dizzy

Is at the Giza plains, yeah. But it's a different one that we usually see around there.

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It's shell it's too damn hard. It took me like 10 minutes to kill the bastard, even with my characters with 3 quickenings each. I was able to connect a quickening combo of 19 hits and I barely scratched him. =/. The problem is that the turtle cast blind, slow and one of the most annoying spells, disable...

tell me about it

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I was WAY under leveled and the only person I had a 3rd quickening to was Ashe. I had to use every single character to keep up the quickening combos and since I was ignorant enough to try to beat it I used up my elixers and was finally able to beat it. I wasn't even level 30 yet ;_;

I was speaking idiomatically.

Ashe originally started off with a sword so I kept her along those lines. I also gave her a few staffs since she was my healer.
I actually noticed that balthier attacks harder with guns than with poles no matter what the optimizer says so I kept him with guns since he can be one of the stronger players early in the game if your able to find some guns

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

hehe yeah the traps can be annoying.
"Oh look libra technik lets me see the traps =D"
*stupid AI steps on it*
"wtf ;_;"

I noticed that Libra is the only technik I've only really used, and I have around 40hrs in the game :/

FELIPE NO

I honestly like to pretend like I can't switch vaan to keep him in the main character slot. So he's the highest level character while everyone else is at an even level.
Keeping one character ahead of others is a cool way imo just to have some extra power in the party

EDIT: Oh yeah I forgot about charge, that is a usefull one that I never use ^^;
Walking around regenarating is good enough for me i guess

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

OMFG I f*cking finally made it to f*cking archadia.

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damnit the road to archadia is freakin long and not only that, once you make it there your in "old archadia" you have to find a person that can help you get into the new one ><!

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I equipped everyone with those and so far my grid is coming out nicely but now I have nothing good to choose from from the skill portion of the grid so I'm getting mostly armor and weapons which is cool becuase they needed an upgrade for quite sometime.

Like the golden armlet doubles your lp, I was able to steal a rabai.....tippet (dont know the first part of the name) in the Tichen Uplands. That Item allows you to gain double exp. Once you reach archadia you'll be able to buy them at 5000gil and even though I have the money for it -around 100000- I decided only to have one person equip it so I can circle it around my party so that everyone still earns pleanty of LP. Basch went up 7 levels in the tichen uplands, also the serpents there almost always drop quality hides so its an awsome place to train once you get there.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

two ranged characters will be a necessity once you encounter the stronger flying enemies but make sure that someone has some powerful black magic too, something like bio.
My characters hit around 600-1400 damage but it means nuthing if they are bounded to ground attacks. Thats why you'll need some strong black magic for those without guns or bows.

woot I finally got another trophy!
Reks, for 500000 hunt points

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

well shows how much i know, this is the first i've heard of telekenesis but I hardly use any techniks. Those things are expensive.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

thats an early tech that you can get, I've had it for quite some time already but with very little effect on damage. Does it cause more damage depending which weapon your holding?

I was speaking idiomatically.

charge never failed on me unless i try it with fran, for some reason she fails like she hates using it :/

I used it a few times during a boss battle which was very risky but i needed to do some quickenings to finish off a boss. When your on your way to archadia there are a few bosses that you have to fight without saving beforehand

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by TheXeno

Does it really matter what quickenings I get for each character?

do you mean if it matters which part of the board you get the quickening in.
You can get any quickening on the board but it will always be the same move for every character. Like feral strike can only be learned by fran but it doesn't matter which part of the board you obtain it in

FELIPE NO

"BASCH LIVES"
I thought I would have some more mini missions like that. Would have probably been a little more fun, kinda like screaming at the gaurds, which wasn't fun but just for the hell of it.

I was actually wondering something about balthier (DONT READ if he hasn't talked about his past yet!)

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Balthier was a judge so I was wondering how his armor must have looked like, or maybe its the same armor as his brother's :/

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I never really got cought, is all they do is tell you to get out? Psh vaan could have taken them ~_~
I was wondering, the only song I like from the game so far is from the intro movie since it uses the ending theme of ffviii. Does anyone know the name so that i can get it or maybe just upload it really quick.

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Originally Posted by JazzFlight

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Um, Balthier doesn't have a brother. Perhaps you mean Basch's brother, Judge Gabranth?

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oops ur right. Got the faces and names confused ~_~
gatta admit, he does an awful lot like balthier

Jam it back in, in the dark.

It took me about three tries and alot of quickening combos but the first door can be beaten on ur first visit to the tomb if your in the right level.

How ya doing, buddy?