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Too bad no ones learned theres a difference between a screenshot from a target video, and the real game when it hits rushed out 2 months from now.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Whens oblivion hit?

What ever happened to that ghost recon game that was supposed to be coming out anyway?

How ya doing, buddy?

Im not saying that 360 isnt capable of such power, im just saying that theyll just slack off toward the end and dumb down the visuals, just like theyre doing oblivion.

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Originally Posted by Bahamut Zero

Too bad they didn't Akira. It is called not having shadows on ALL objects. Shadows are still going to be on characters and probably houses and trees. Doesn't mean the graphical quality is gone.

And no action game will ever be the size of Oblivion so I don't think they have to worry.

And you have to 360 games in motion anyway. I don't know if you have one yet, but it's so true.

Ive played my fair share of 360 games. Enough to know what theyre offering now. Im not saying they cant do more, because I know theyre capable of more. All Im saying is I saw some shots of Oblivion recently and they looked sadly dumbed down. Its still a gorgeous game, and a massive undertaking, but It just didnt look like they thing it was promised to be in the earlier screenshots. Ill wait till the final thing hits on the 20th before I pass anymore judgement.

How ya doing, buddy?

Im gonna grab it on release. I know its gonna be my life regardless of how it looks.

Back on note though, the screens seem to be doint what alot of 360 games are doing. They use low poly models and throw in nice touches like motion blur, and lighting effects, alot like PDZ, that makes up for it.

I was speaking idiomatically.