The Hip Hop/Rap Thread

So a new thread has appeared for HipHop/Rap now huh. It's about time...
Sup Lady Miyomi, has been a while. Seems I lost my account so I'm back to newb status >_<

Anyways I have to agree there's a fine line within the HipHop/Rap/Commertial whatever you wanna call it... As Night said "different strokes for different folks" is pretty much the genaral though I have into it. This genre has split into so many different styles is hard to keep up with anymore and is hard to explain to people since they are all basically categorized simply as "RAP".

There's still good HipHop out there Lady....is just not as simple as turning on the radio or the TV anymore though that's all.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I haven't heard anything from J5 in a while myself but I can definetly say I like them. They always came out with fun hiphop type shit...

Def Jux is also on top of my list....an although they are on top of my list there will be something always missing from them since Co Flow seperated.

As much as I like Aesop....he confuses the shit out of me sometimes. The man is like the fucking Riddler sometimes. I still like his 1st album "Apple Seed" the best out of all his albums.

Vast Aire is another.....sometimes he doesn't make sense to me....

BLAH....I'm not good with words.....hence my confusion =/

How ya doing, buddy?

OK...I'm confused....WTF are we talking about here now? VGM HipHop is better than HipHop? I mean I went back and read how this started but what is the point you're trying to make exaclty?

Also aren't artist like FatJon and DJ Shadow considered instrumental HipHop?

On another note...

I just got all the Samurai Champloo sountracks finaly....Yes I'm kinda late on that but whatever....Best fucking hiphop I've heard in a while. The damn beats are sick!

Also I'm loving this Narls Barley album. It's just something different to listen to but refreshing.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

HAHAHA! This shit is funny. I don't even see a point to even comparing the two anymore. Mainstream has it's own style and appeals to a bigger amount of people. Most people go to clubs and parties to have a good time not to judge people lyrics. If it sounds good and you can dance to it then it's a hit. Simple as that. This very reason it's what makes it such a big money maker.

Underground has it's own style too and although it apeals to a large number of people it's not even even close to the amount of people that listen to mainstream. It has lyrical values as well as creative beats and that's the main focus of it.

I don't even like mainstream...at all...but to say that either is pure shit is ignorant. People listen to what they like and that's all there is to it.

Also this whole crap about HioHop is dead. HipHop isn't dead...it just evolves.
It's evolved into 2 whole different genres from what I can see.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Aes can rhyme like there's no tomorrow. His lyrics are complex and well thought with meaning. I can go days prasing his lyrical talent but I know there isn't a fucking chance he's going to apeal to a wide audience. I can understand why most people would listen to him and say "WTF is this?". The man is like the fucking Riddler. Most people don't need that shit and listen to music for enjoyment, not to listen to something you need to break the fucking Da Vinci Code to understand. I love this shit but I know he's not going anywhere aside from this also...

About T.I....

Originally Posted by Night Phoenix

It's not always about what you say, but how you say it.

I couldn't agree more. While I might not listen to T.I. for the fact that I just don't listen to that style of music...as a matter of fact I can't stand it but, I UNDERSTAND why it's such a marketable style. The man might not be saying much by other peoples standards (underground heads) but he knows what his people likes. He knows what he likes and the man delivers in a way that the people like.

People shit on your music and you will shit back on to theirs.

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On another note...I think Aes should get back with L-Dub. Blockhead is cool but his shit gets a bit boring after a while. Encephalon, I'm guessing you have heard the "One Hundred" album by the Controls. Fuck I loved that album. Also till this day Apple Seed is STILL my fav album of his.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Encephalon

<3

Appleseed is actually my 2nd favorite of Aesop's albums following closely on the heels of Float. That whole production was definitely the most well-hashed even though it was relatively low on "production". I still consider Float to be a superior album.

For me is the other way around. Float is a close second to my fav album.
Still though...have you heard him on the "Controls" album?
I only ask cause till this day I have meet some people that love Aes but never heard of his tracks with Controls.

If not check this out...

http://www.dub-l.com/the%20controls.htm

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Anyone have the new Cannibal Ox album? Is not for sale here in Australia ;_;
I've only heard 1 track but thats shit was sick!

FELIPE NO

Sorry man...what I meant what THIS album:

Return of the Ox - Live at CMJ

1. Can Ox Medley
2. Battle For Asgard
3. Mighty Joseph Medley
4. Cip One
5. Believe
6. Who's That Drunk Dude
7. Taboo
8. Vein
9. Stay Up
10. Raspberry Fields
11. AK-47
12. Cold Vein
13. From The Planet of Eat (Produced by El-P)

Check out one of the tracks @ http://www.definitivejux.net/jukies/...x/discography/

Meh...I guess nobody has it =/

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Thanks man! Much appreciated! Been a while I've listen to anything new from them. Hey did you ever get the chance to check out that "Coward of the Year" CONTROLS album mp3 with Aesop Rock?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Lady Miyomi

To be honest, I'm not fond of VGM and hip hop mixing. I prefer the two to remain separate. Besides, hip hop is doing well its own beats, why move to VGM? I know the concept has been tried a few times already. I've heard a few songs and I wasn't happy with the results.

WTF?! Hasn't anyone here heard the "Game Over" album by Yoshumi?
They had beats from Soul Caliber, Soul Blade, Mario Bros and some others.
He also came out with a second album but it wasn't as good.

The Arsonist had a track where the beat was straigh out from a game...I don't remember the game name though...some pick haired caveman looking character game.

There's a few other tracks by other artist that used VGM as beats...I just cant recall all of then at the moment though.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

So I have finaly listened to the new DJ Shadow album...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outsider_%28album%29

Is anyone else as disapointed as I am? The album was as if it wasn't Shadow at all. After the 1st track I noticed myself skipping through all the songs and before I knew it...I skipped through the whole album. I was sure I would at least find a track or two I would like but no....nothing...

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Lady Miyomi

I sincerely hope the trend doesn't gain momentum. I still don't like the idea of VGM and hip hop mixing.

It can be done in a good way. Anyways considering the Yoshumi album is about 5 years old I don't think it has gained any momentum at all.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?