Firearms

Originally Posted by andkeener

What makes you think that same crazy ass robber wouldn't use your own gun on you? Or just shoot you before you had the chance to get to your gun? I'm just guessing that you don't walk around your house with your pistol loaded and in your back pocket.

Because I'd shoot before asking questions and all I would have to say is this, "I was afraid for the life of me and my family." That way, even if he's unarmed, I was still defending my life and the life of my family. So the robber would loose a knee cap in hte process. I doubt he'd rob anther house again.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

In the USA, only semi-automatic or below is allowed for a civillian. The rest are for the cops and the army.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by andkeener

So you are the guy that walks around his house/family with a loaded gun in his back pocket and shoots anything that moves. People like you and stereotypical hicks are why people from other countries hate the US. Good job.

Um, if you come in, busting down my door and I happen to defend my family or I. Then how am I sterotypical hick?

I am rather curious why you jump the gun(no pun intended) on that if someone threatens my household that I have no right to defend myself?

And as well, he can't sue me for injuries when he was TRESSPASSING on my land and did damages to my household by breaking and entering.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Gumby

Sadly Zio they can sue you if they live... Just because they broke into your home does not justify killing them. Now should they have a gun out then you could probably say it was self defense to blow the guys brains out. If I found someone in my home and they weren't armed I'd make get on the ground at gun point and hog die them, wait for the cops to show up and if the fucking had the misfortune of twitching wrong he's dead. No one should fuck around when it comes to their safety, none of this shoot 'em in the knees bullshit.

Yes, I understand that but the thing is, I should have not to wait to see signs of a threat in order to have any self defense. I aint waiting for some guy to get the chance to shoot me. Rather or not he's armed or not, I'll be damn sure they won't get the chance to even get anything. Rather or not I shoot him or not.

Besides people do weird things when they fear for thier lives.

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Originally Posted by andkeener

Did you forget that you said you said, "Because I'd shoot before asking questions..."? The whole 'shoot first, ask later' mentality is VERY stereotypical hick. Also, when did I say anything about breaking and entering, doing any damage to your property, or sueing anyone for any injuries?

No, but others said that they can sue, which is true but you can claim self defense.

And you better call most cops in the USA hicks then cause they go by that philosophy as well. If they feel threaten or you are going for a weapon some sort even if you aren't. They will shoot to disable then ask questions.

And anyone can have a shoot first, ask later... Maybe you shoudl stop sterotyping people. Either way, I'd still be willing to use a gun if I must, rather or not the guy is armed or not. Shoot to disable and disarm, if I must I will kill someone to save my own life or life of my loved ones.

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Why do you jump to such conclusions as just because someone other than family is in your house they are threatening you or anyone in your family in any way?

Gee, I guess if I knock down a door and began to ravage through things that aren't mine, I would assume that the people inside would be terrified to the point that thier life MIGHT be endanger.

Put it this way, if you walk into a Lion's den that is full of new born lions. Rather you are a threat or not, that Lion will kill you in defense.

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EDIT - Please don't forget that my original point I was tyring to make in this thread was 'what makes you think that having a gun in the house will make you any safer', not that you can't get away with shooting someone in your own house (as if that is a good thing).

Yes, I know and my philosophy that a gun can help because you have a better way to defend yourself. Why should people who go breaking laws only have a gun. I know you probaly think it's stupid but either way someone is going to have a gun or some sort of weapon, rather legal or not.

I was speaking idiomatically.

About self defense on your own proporty...

Well, lets put it this way when your mom has two children at home that are 2 and 1. Your mom having only one hand due to birth defect. She had to rush into the closest, grab the shotgun, load it and cock it with one hand without any problems and wait for the intruder to bust down the door and just try it. Cause if he would have(He gave up trying to bust in), he would have been more then likely missing a leg or two cause trust me, I've seen my mom fire handguns and other things in target practice. She does very well for having one hand.

That is the only time I know of, but even then, even now, I do feel much safer in my house with a gun or two. Hell, even hunting rifles will do the trick, or even a crossbow. My uncle who lives in upnorth wisconsin has used a crossbow for hunting and as well some other weaponary. He uses it even in self defense cause of the drunkards who go hunting, get drunk wander off and threaten people with the guns.

Oh and if you want to go very primal, use a crossbow, that'll really get them then. A nice big bolt into the chest or anther body part.

To me, there is no peace way to deal with someone breaking into the house armed or not. I'd still rather have the edge on the robber with an ambush, warning them and if they do not disarm, take out a leg or arm and then disarm them and if I must go farther then I will, simple as that.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Agree with David on the reason that there are certain reasons why to use a gun on someone but to me, using it makes it certain that I am a step up from the robber rather he is armed or not. Even if I am going to use it or not.

With that being said, the only ways i was taught how to use was a gun or knife, so either way even if I am just using it to capture someone without even firing a single round or make them run away. I'd rather do that then try to use something else and die.

It isn't that the gun is bad, it's how you use it.

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Originally Posted by Harmonica

In most home defense situations, a gun is really overkill. If you're worried about the safety of your home and family, before you consider purchasing a gun, consider a dog. German shepherds, retrievers of the Laborador or golden variety, the fact is that dogs know something is up when someone comes in the house without your permission. And most lowlifes don't have the guts to face down an animal with sharp teeth and a threatening bark. On top of all that, a dog is a companion, too. I know my Remingtons don't wag tails and run in circles when I get home. So yeah. Dogs are usually an adequate alternative, unless you're in a particularly bad area where people will kill your poor pooch just to get that drug money, if they're capable. But even then the dog's still a good early warning system. If you're allergic to dogs or something that'd be another thing too. But yeah. Dogs that have the potential to be threatening are an extremely good crime deterrent.

Hmm, yeah, a dog won't help you if it's dead.

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