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Originally Posted by The_Griffin

They... don't life steal unless you're talking about Vampiric Embrace, which just adds a healing component to their damage spells. And really, the only problem they have with Shadowform is that their spells scale like utter shit. Fixing Mind Flay's mechanics would solve any problems they have in PVE, especially with Vampiric Touch.

I was talking more PVP but yeah PVE it kinda sucks to be a shadow priest.

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I'm... rather surprised that you have a warlock and apparently raid with him yet don't know about this. Are you put on Curse of Recklessness duty on your raid, or are you allowed to DPS fully and put on Curse of Agony/Curse of Doom?

That's cause I am just DPSing I'm a 5/31/16 soul link lock. Even in pvp I barly put down curse of shadows/elements cause to me it's kinda of a waste unless I have my succubus out and etc just cause of the fact that 10% from her + anther 10% + shadow vulnerability = one hell of a DC.

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EDIT: Sunder Armor got nerfed? When did THIS happen?

Yeah what's going on with this? Just because of the fact that warriors are suppose to TANK BETTER THEN ANY CLASS.

Not only cause of the armor but thier abilities.

FELIPE NO

Indeed the lock is strong and as much as I love/hate the lock. The lock is really mana dependent. It takes a lot of mana IMO to even kill someone. Maybe it's cause I am soul link but with soul link I can take good hits in PVP.

The lock might be strong but they burn mana like nothing.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Kensaki

You have to be goddamn insane not to go affliction/demo in TBC. It is insanely overpowered. All the buffs on dots + the new calculation for spells... I would say that affliction with dark pact is the most mana efficent damage I have seen from a lock. And yes of course you will use much more mana as a demo lock, Its the trade off for the survivability.

Also the felguard can solo a stupid warrior. A smart warrior disarms it then two shots it. I have a vid of that lying around. Ofc to do this twice while warlock is pounding on you is well...

Zio in TBC warlocks go from being superb in 1v1 to being superb in 1v2. Seduce one fear other lay seed of corruption on both and dot up with dots and run the other way. if they are close to each other and dont have a way of removing it healing themselves/try to run after you they die. Seen this seed of corruption been used to kill 7 same lvl mobs at the same time. The end aoe killed them as all was hit for 1000+ to 2500 crit from each others SoC. Its more potent if used right than mages AoE can hope to be.

Well I didn't know about that part, but I do know this. A lot of locks are going either afflication or detrc. Just cuase in destruction you can pull back a lot of mana from your hits or something like that I was told.

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Hey with seed of corruption ends on it's timer. Does it do the damage to the one who was seeded?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Curse of Weakness changed to an attack power reduction, instead of a flat damage reduction. In other words, a PVE buff, and a PVP nerf.

How is that a PVP nerf? that's a buff all around I think. That's awesome. AP reduction means any melee units rather PVE or PVP do a lot less damage. Especially rogues/warriors. It can change a lot of it's removing say a lot of AP.

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Also, somebody did some theorycrafting... and well, Restoration shamans put out damage over a 5 minute fight that is around 95% of an Elemental shaman's. Here's the thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...50895737&sid=1

I think this more than anything highlights the problem with Elemental. Somebody else put it best: "The main restraining factor with Shaman caster DPS is not time, but mana. The Restoration shaman's mana regen would have to be buffed by 50% to even allow time to be a factor, much less Elemental."

The problem is, with your current spells and even if shocks could do say something like add damage - insert spell and etc. With your current set of spells that you have, the shocks, lightning and etc. There is no way for you to even get out good DPS as say half as good as a mage without redoing ALL of your spells. Yes I know Shammy is suppose to be an all arounder but the thing is, they'd have to redo all of the shammy spells I do believe. I've been told enchantment isn't so bad now.

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Also, Rogues got some changes. Imp BS and Imp SnD got switched (yay), Cloak of Shadows got reduced to a 1-minute cooldown (!!!), and Blind got reduced to a 3 minute cooldown (!!!), 1.5 with talents (!!!!), but they both got removed from Preparation. Also, Surprise Attacks got changed to affect finishers instead of standard CP generators.

Meh I think they should have kept it with SS and etc. What are they saying that it's too powerful cause BS/SS/Gouge can always hit?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Hunters got nerfed. 1 AP for 1 agil? Not that I care but that's a major nerf.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I didn't know hunters got that big of a revamp.

Second, I can't wait for CTmod to finish revamping especially if they do the bar mod. For the love of god they better or else I need to find a new bar mod that was good as CTmod. I love CTmod. Ctmod has some of the stuff back espeically CTRA.

But meh, locks are boring now. ._.; Afflication takes too much patience/time to kill and demo/destruction is too eay to use.

And now my rogue wipes the floor cause my SS/Gouge is undodgable and thus I wtfpwn rogues now even with them having evasion.

I don't know, it just seems I may not play BC and sell my reserve copies.

How ya doing, buddy?

Surprise attacks own and so does blade twisting. I love how I can proc blade twisting on a mage, they teleport and I can run the other way and get out of spell range enough to stealth and start up again.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Jpnez, you can use the barmod from CT. It allows to bind static to any of the action bars now. They even have a list you can go through and bind keys to it. And there isn't enough default bars for my shit as a warlock.

Anyway, as well as didn't they say decursive took away the 'challange' of raiding? O.o;

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I like the changes but that's just me.

I liked the new PVP system, all i wish is you could 'rank' up cause now my warlock is suck as nothing cause I didn't get to PVP with him enough to get scout.

And I heard nothing bad about the raiding thing, I think it's good to have 25 mans. Cause if the guild is good enough, you could easily pull out three decent teams of raiding making loots easilier to get, well not easier but faster. Even if it was as hard as naxx, Dagget, it might be more annoying then good. /me shrugs. I guess that is why it would have phat loots.

How ya doing, buddy?

Meh, that is why I like sword/mace spec as a rogue. Barly any group I'm with do I miss a drop I really really really want.

Second, as a lock I barly miss drops as well.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Meh, I tried the game and dislike it. It doesn't have a play style like Magic The Gathering or Yugioh(Even though I sold all my Yugioh cards on ebay and made like problay double what I paid for in booster packs and etc.).

Jam it back in, in the dark.

What is so special about the loot cards?

/me goes to find his small stash

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I think it's Titan.

Second I want a turtle mount. ;______;

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

What are you talking that the holy spec is bad? It's great, a healing clearcast? Pretty much making a free heal and other talents.

/me shrugs. Maybe I just have too much oppitimistic about things from reports from my guild.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Yeah DPSing as a rogue is monotonous. Slice n Dice, Evis, blade flurry, adren rush, SS and like one other move.

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Originally Posted by Shifty

Too much offensive stuff in a tree that I'd prefer to be a "healing tree" for my liking. Things like Blessed Resilience, Surge of Light, Spell Warding and Blessed Recovery aren't really useful to me as a healer.

That's cause blizzard made it more PVP worthy for the heal bots.

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The Clearcast only works for FHeal and GHeal. Which I guess will be used a lot more than Heal in BC. /shrug

If you PVP or not, it's still awesome. My guild atleast, we had our own little groups to heal and etc. So you had to watch your own little sections to heal.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I should make a rogue/lock one. :X

FELIPE NO

Everything the horde has is undead save for the classes that undead can't be.

Eh I just don't like how undead look nor thier areas

I just pick races based more so on looks then thier racial abilities unless they really matter such as resistance to stuns, more HP and etc but to me Will of the Forsaken is still overrated IMO.

I dueled a deathwish warrior as a demo lock and still owned.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Wraith, I just hate how they look and thier starting areas. Or else I'd proably be them, besides there are so many, it's overrated.

Taruen give the nice HP bonus plus AOE stun. Orc can resist stuns and have axe specialization plus blood fury. I think both work quite well.

I don't know about gnome though, it's a nice ability but it's on a 1 sec cast + it seems overrated to me. Sure a extra escape + 5% more int is good but meh, I'd rather be a human or night self. I can't stand midgets in WoW, that includes dwarves too.

It's not even what you are trying to accomplish, it's what you want the most.

Trolls pwn in caster classes cause of berserking. Nothing like pulling off flash and great heals at about 30% faster then everyone else(That is if you burn yourself like my brother does.), he eats a few runes that eat life for mana. Berserks and go wheeeeeee!

THe only reason my rogue is troll, not only cause trolls look a lot better but I liked berserking. It's nice to have a 30% extra attack in PVP after you potted, with blade flurry and slice n dice since my rogue is mace spec combat spec PVP build. It's great! Plus now with deadly throw, throw spec for troll racial is useful.

The only reason I like NE is cause of the ability to eat and shadowmeld. It's very useful IMO. Humans have nice extra spirit, double rep rewards, plus that increase stealth sight.

Orc lock = stun resist, extra pet damage( whee fel guard!), and blood fury. Nice 126 or so extra spell damage for 15 secs.

I already listed why for the others. Fel hunter + perception = bye bye stealthies.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Even then Wraith, why would you give some up nice bonuses as a NE or even a human? *shrugs* I just find escape artist and WoTF overrated.

Besides I thought undead were rotting, not thier armor :X.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

That's cause your raid leader HAD been in there and he HAD cleared that part. The rest of the people must have not been able to join HIS saved one cause they've been in before or whatever else. Unless he changed leaders after people had gone in but yeah.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Soul link locks got nerfed hardcore, oh well. I was planning on respec to destruction anyway.

Second those are some nice rogue buffs.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

That raid ID thingy is bullshit.

Second, http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...12000513031351

That's my new destruction build for BC. Wheee!

I was speaking idiomatically.

Immp: It's bullshit as in Blizzard should be able to punish people for abusing/getting more raids cause they get into it, wipe/cause problems and then when the guild who had the one or two people go in to finish it's done already? That's bullshit.

Second, I don't use my imp at ALL. I am usually always with a priest so.... Yeah. I just use my felhunter/succy.

The only class I hate right about now is this, is the god damn druid. THEY REFUSE TO DIE!

Oh and a druid and I got into a fight about gimping. Cause I didn't plan on getting mangle but planned on going full feral + NS and a few things I think in balance. Just cause I could pop out, get nurturing spirit or whatever pop a nice 2k crit heal in zero time and shapeshift back.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Hmm now that I think of it, it happened to one of my guilds once and I think a GM was shock and did somehting about it. We went into MC all happy cause we were going to down rag cause last itme we got him to 2% and he was gone.

FELIPE NO