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Song of the Week - WEEK 97 Voting/WEEK 98 Nominating
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Old Jun 4, 2007, 12:53 PM Local time: Jun 4, 2007, 10:53 AM #1 of 53

  • Artist: Tatsuya Watanabe
  • Album/Game Title: Air Buster
  • Track Title: Seaside Front [Arrange Version]
  • Disc Number: 1 (of 1)
  • Track Number: 1
  • Catalog Number: PCCB-00025
  • Year: 1990
  • Additional Information: The arrange version unfortunately doesn't have the best part of the original: the epileptic seizure bassline.
  • Sources: http://www.gmronline.com/info.asp?CatNumber=PCCB-00025


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Old Jun 4, 2007, 04:08 PM Local time: Jun 4, 2007, 02:08 PM #2 of 53
Thanks for pasting, since I did in fact miss that.

A "professional VGM composer" is defined as a person who has composed at least one musical score specifically for, and featured in, a published video/computer game. This definition can still be put up for debate on a per-artist basis, such as if the quantity of scores composed seems lacking.
Seeing as he has composed a grand total of one VGM track, the main theme to Fable, I submit that Danny Elfman's quantity of scores composed seems lacking.

I do get your point, though. Do you have any ideas for general solutions besides outright banning all original compositions*? One thing I've tossed around in my head a couple of times is that only original tracks written after the first VGM composition would be eligible; after all, the person certainly wasn't a VGM composer before that, were they? However, that criterion has always struck me as being arbitrary for some reason that I just can't place my finger on.

*: I expect this will be brought into the discussion at some point in time, but let's just put it off for a little bit, since that's a matter unto itself.

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Old Jun 4, 2007, 05:50 PM Local time: Jun 4, 2007, 03:50 PM #3 of 53
I wouldn't really nominate that except to make a point. But you have to admit that, under the current rules, it would be technically eligible. And I'd definitely put Sakamoto in the same boat as far as quantity of scores, seeng as his contributions were few and widely spaced.

. . .

I also think that the quantity of scores someone has composed is an issue. Sakamoto composed one OST and one main theme, but that technically makes his considerable output as a solo artist eligible, when I think most people would agree that he only moonlights in VGM and rarely at that.
Sakamoto does have two more VGM credits: the opening and ending themes to Seven Samurai 20XX and the PC Engine CD-ROM soundtrack to Tengai Makyou: Ziria.

That's just a quibble, though, because the point still stands that, out of his sizable discography, the fact that he only has two major and two minor VGM credits compared with eighty-four albums means that maybe the guy's just a composer who ocasionally writes VGM music instead of a VGM composer proper.

But how exactly do we draw the line? We could drop some math: a person isn't a VGM composer if he has twice as many non-VGM works as VGM works, or three times, and so on, but if he has above a certain threshold of VGM works, say five, then he's definitely eligible. But that idea's stupid; I say we just wing it SotW-style and do it case-by-case.

I would submit that, in general, original tracks should be made during or after a composer's VGM career, or should be directly linked to it in some way.
What do you mean by linked? Something like the composer arranged one of his earlier original works for a game, and you want to nominate the original piece?

It's unfortunate, but the line has to be drawn somewhere or else I'll have no choice but to nominate a track from the "Charlie & the Chocolate Factory" movie soundtrack, on the grounds that Elfman simultaneously recorded music for the video game of the same name, providing a clear, distinct connection to VGM and making both albums eligible.
Did he really? Last I checked, Winifred Phillips composed the game, unless some of Elfman's music was just copied from the movie (licensed?).

Also, we do have this little number:
Originally Posted by Nomination Rule #4
To clarify further, the following are NOT allowed:
. . .
  • Film/anime music
I've been meaning to add TV music to that bullet point for a while, and think I will, unless someone objects.

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Old Jun 5, 2007, 12:34 AM Local time: Jun 4, 2007, 10:34 PM #4 of 53
To resolve this whole mess, Dragon God has switched to:

However, this does not mean the discussion on the rules change is complete! Especially since only three people including myself have weighed in thus far. The two main points I see are:
  • Changing the definition of "professional VGM composer" to be more subjective, taking into account the number of VGM works compared with total output.
  • Disallowing original pieces composed before the composer's first VGM credit unless there is some "direct VGM link," whatever that may be.
Talk amongst yourselves.

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Old Jun 10, 2007, 07:19 PM Local time: Jun 10, 2007, 05:19 PM #5 of 53
Unless we get a bunch of votes in the next four hours or so, I'm extending. Even if Drakken votes, we'll only have eleven distributions (counting mine, which I'll make if I have to), which I don't think is particularly acceptable. Hell, back in Week 61 where people were complaining about the wonky results because of low voter turnout, we had thirteen.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 17, 2007, 11:04 PM Local time: Jun 17, 2007, 09:04 PM #6 of 53
Tie for third place. D:

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Old Jun 17, 2007, 11:20 PM Local time: Jun 17, 2007, 09:20 PM #7 of 53
goldsac breaks the tie!

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Voting is closed and nominations are restricted!

1). [26] Within a Deep Forest (Game Rip) - Diamond Meditation
2). [22] SUDEKI Original Soundtrack - New Brightwater
3). [14] Love Escalator Original Soundtrack - Rocket punch
4). [13] Melty Lancer Original Soundtrack - Charge
5). [12/8] Carnage Heart Portable Original Sound Track - Moonwalk (BATTLE BGM5)
6). [12/7] Black Belt (SMS Game Rip) - Boss
7). [11] Kameo - Elements of Power (Game Rip) - Chillin' in the Trainer's Hut
8). [10] Lennus ~ Memory of the Ancient Machine Original Album - Chiezuni and Midia

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Old Jun 17, 2007, 11:37 PM Local time: Jun 17, 2007, 09:37 PM #8 of 53
I was actually going to close voting when I made the "Drakken " post before yours, so you were actually too slow by seven minutes. I was keeping it open until the next voter to break the tie, which conveniently happened to be you!

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Old Jun 18, 2007, 12:01 AM Local time: Jun 17, 2007, 10:01 PM #9 of 53
Elorin did.

(<3 him so much best track this week aside from my own nom)

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Old Jun 18, 2007, 09:46 AM Local time: Jun 18, 2007, 07:46 AM #10 of 53
OH RIGHT: Is anyone going to put the little gold medal symbol next to "To A Distance" for winning the last battle?
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