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Song of the Week - WEEK 91 Voting/WEEK 92 Nominating
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Old Apr 15, 2007, 08:56 PM Local time: Apr 15, 2007, 06:56 PM #1 of 27
Voting is closed and nominations are restricted!

1). [24] Genso Suikoden Music Collection ~Celtic Collection 2~ - Emotional Theme ~Genso Suikoden~
2). [18] Boomshine (Game Rip) - Excremental Intermission (Boomshine Mix)
3). [15] Ragnarok Online 2 The Gate of the World (Game Rip) - Intro Theme
4-t). [14/11] Atelier Iris ETERNAL MANA 2 Original Soundtrack - Gentle Breeze and the Earth
4-t). [14/11] Trigger Heart EXELICA OriginalSoundtrack - SOUND ANCHOR - STAGE 1 ~Exelica, Dancing at Dawn~
6). [9] Command & Conquer Tiberian Sun Soundtrack - Pharotek
7-t). [7/5] Fortune Quest Roll the Dice - Dash de GO!!
7-t). [7/5] Way of the Samurai 2 Original Sound Track - Souls Bonded and Split

Bonus point system failed hard this week, but luckily none of the tying tracks placed. Besides, the real winner this week is Kanji on account of his YKK avatar. <3

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Old Apr 15, 2007, 10:54 PM Local time: Apr 15, 2007, 08:54 PM #2 of 27
Well, the reason the tracks tied this week is that each of the tying tracks not only had the same point total, but exactly the same point distribution. Any system that only takes into account how people voted would've tied them.

However, there have been other ties in the past where the songs had different distributions. I've been thinking that it hasn't been perfect for a while, but I haven't given much thought into making it better yet.

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Old Apr 16, 2007, 12:18 AM Local time: Apr 15, 2007, 10:18 PM #3 of 27
I understand how the system works in theory, of course. I meant that perhaps we should add a contingency to the rules in case this happens again--as you point out, though, it's tough, since the distributions are equal.

Maybe earlier votes could break superties, or votes with comments appended, or we could have a voteoff. I'm just thinking out loud of course; I'd have said the situation would never come up before this week.
I thought of taking into account the time votes are cast, but I didn't post it because I thought it was a pretty bad method. I wouldn't want my track not to place just because someone gave points to a competitor five minutes before I voted.

(or five days, more likely, since I vote late :x )

Giving more weight to votes with commentary is a bit more attractive, because it could possibly encourage a bit more depth in voting, but people don't always have time to give full comments. I've been giving sparse comments the past few weeks because I've been up to my neck with projects, papers to write, etc. I think any kind of weighting system would probably be unfair.

Some specific tying examples for you:

http://wiki.sotw.info/index.php?titl...roup_9#Week_70
Anno 1602 (Game Rip) - Ballad of Hope and WindAge - Oriental Dark Flight tied at 15 points and 11 bonus points, even though both had different point distributions. Usually the bonus system does a pretty good job of breaking ties (whether or not the track it chooses is "better" is debatable, though), but here it didn't quite work.

http://www.gamingforce.com/forums/ge...ost319662.html
Had to extend voting here because there was a tie (including bonus points) for third place.

Or, god forbid, we could have an honest-to-goodness tie. The point of SotW isn't winning, per se, but spreading around good music, right? What's the harm in placing an additional track onto the SotW page if the voters obviously felt both were deserving?
Part (most) of the problem is that the site software is set up for three tracks, each with a different ranking. Someone would have to whack at the page code and database to allow ties and possibly more than three tracks per week.

Possibly more reasons too! But that's the best I've got right now.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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