[General Discussion] Sonic turned 15

Yesterday was Sonic 15 birthday yet very few people, even on gaming forums noticed it... does Sonic no longer appeal to the gamers?

EDIT:
Like soniclover says: Let's talk about the good times, the oldies but the goodies!

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I can see the Sonic image has degradated over the years, he was once my hero... crazy kid stuff but if you think about it it's not so bad. I'd rather have Sonic as my hero than some lame pseudo-satan mettalica dude or whatever.

As for the games... well... yeah most of the newer Sonic games just plain suck ass. The only 'recent' exception I can remember are Sonic Adventure 1 and Sonic Advance 2/3.
The new Sonic Next-gen doesn't seem anything worthy too
Sad times indeed and I blame it all on these kids today

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Yep... it looks like that. Let us then praise the good ol' time, the mighty power that is retro and 2D games.
Infact this thread was an effort to see if someone would stand up and defend Sonic but looks like it won't happen... oh well I'm going to sleep, the miserable state that Sonic reached gets me depressed.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey

Instead, I'll post screens of my favorite Sonic game

Dang! Me too but it will be 16 bits instead:

Sonic & Knuckles

Best Sonic ever, I like to play it alone because I don't like Sonic 3 levels that much.

and... Ristar!

This game is one of the best platformers I've played yet few people know it, even I only knew about it's existence a few years ago with the advent of Mega Drive emulation, I know it's off topic but worth mention and at least isn't crying over Sonic's dead hedgehog body...

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

I only knew about Ristar when playing Shenmue! You know those capsule toys? Well one of them was Ristar, I knew all the other figures (even those character of Sonic Triple Trouble like Fang) but I was clueless about this star dude and his name Ristar.
It still took me a while to find out who he was since I had no internet back then, I only found it out when on Shenmue 2 I refound the Ristar capsule (or did I refound in on Shenmue 1? Can't remember).

Af for the squirrel... Conker Bad Fur Day perhaps?

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I kinda liked Sonic Heroes and it could've been a great game if:
1. You played as _one_ character at a time
2. They removed all the story, like I said somewhere the best story a game can have is "Press start button" story.

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Originally Posted by Elixir

JUST WHAT EVERY RPG NEEDS.

Good try

Originally Posted by Viperas

Hehe... funny stuff! Where Robotnik BTW?

Originally Posted by soniclover

Devilmaycry. If you really don't want this to be a big mope-fest (oh wait, it already is) then edit your first post and add in "Let's talk about the good times".

Done!

Originally Posted by soniclover

The Great Japanese music was butchered to satisfy the American audience (which was a bad idea). The music for the American Version could actually hurt your ears....anyways, the game had horrible bosses.

The european version of the game had the same music than the japanese. Anyway I never heard the music from the US version.

Originally Posted by soniclover

What is this? Seems more like a workout machine ("Egg"-Ups?)

:lolsign:

Originally Posted by soniclover

Anyhow, the game had some fun level designs. It wasn't Great game or or horrible one. It was sorta in the middle.

True... the workbench zone was annoying as hell! The rest of the game was Ok.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by soniclover

The music was done by Hideki Naganuma and it was alright.

Hideki Naganuma music OWNZ! At least on JSR it completely owns!
Sonic Rush is mediocre no matter how hard they tried because of the plataform, Nintendo DS must the very worst mainstream console ever, that screen placement is the stupidiest thing ever... unless your face looks like this:


What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I like both Sonic Advance 2 and 3. Shame they are on Gameboy Advance... if they were on XBox or any other console (but preferibly on Xbox since I have one) they would be the best Sonic games for years to come. Yes I know I can play it on a GC with a GBA Player, but I expected it on XBox in 720p and GC/PS2 on 480p (I say 480p on these console because I think they can't output 720p, I'm not underrating them!)

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Originally Posted by soniclover

By the way, did anyone play Sonic Battle for the GBA?

I did, not on a real GBA but on VisualBoyAdvance (yes I mean ROMs). I've finished it twice but the game is kinda hard. But not a that bad fighter... could've been a lot worse.

Now there's one thing I don't understand, how are we supposed to play that on a GBA? With that tiny screen and unconfortable shaped controls (it's a portable console afterall) I doubt anyone could really make it, at least without a lot of retries.
I've used a MS Sidewinder + 17" monitor for the first run and a 82cm TV for the second go and I still found it hard to locate the enemies sometimes!

Now I would love to see someone do it in a 2" screen :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Sin Ansem

^That's why I'm not bothering with a Micro. EVER.

I wasn't refering to a GBA Micro but to a normal one, of course the micro is even smaller... I just can't for the life of me see (literaly!) how can one play on these screens.
I remember back then when I played with a borrowed Gamegear, I was 11 years old with the freshest eyes you can get and still after 2 hours I'd always get a massive headache.

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Yeah but using a Gameboy Player won't rise the game resolution, it'll still be a 160 lines game instead of 480.

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Originally Posted by evilboris

Let compare again:
Sonic 1: blur in blue, blue dude with a 'tude, etc
Sonic now: IMA ROLLIN AROUND WITH THE SPEED OF DA SOUND, GOTTA FOLLOW MY RAINBOOOW

LMAO, that's not the Sonic theme! That's Sonic Adventure 2 1st part of the 1st level, City Escape, theme. But yeah the Sonic theme ain't any better.

Originally Posted by evilboris

Sonic 1: evil doctor who turns animals into robot slaves
Sonic now: I AM THE EGGMAN, THATS WHAT I AM, THE EGGMAN, YES, I'M THE EGGMAN THE EGGMAAAAAN, OH YEA DOO DOO DOOOO

You got it right this time, that's indeed SA2 Robotnick theme.

Originally Posted by evilboris

Notice how "making a good game" is noticably missing in the process, too.

Not only is missing in the process as it's missing on the game as well!
I've also replayed SA1 recently after a few years of not having touched it. Back then I was new to the 3D games (skipped the PSX/32bit gen) and I was amazed with the game, fast forward a few years to 2006 and playing it again with 3D games experience shows me that the game was very poorly done... and I'm not even mentioning SA2 and stuff like Shadow.
Just plain sad. (mopfest here we GO!)

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by evilboris

And by 2009, we will have SONIC RANGERS!

By 2009? Are you sure you didn't meant... NOW!



GO GO POWER RANGERS!!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?