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Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED Destiny ~upcoming stuff~
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Old Apr 7, 2006, 10:45 PM #1 of 85
When does GS Destiny OST 4 come out? Or has it already come out?

Originally Posted by Box Lunch
I don't think that pic is legit, cuz
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you dont ever see Athrun having the slightest intrest in Meyrin during SEED Destiny. Sure, it's obvious she has a crush on him, but it doesn't seem like those feelings are returned; and with Fukuda's way of making a show, if two people like/love each other, it's pretty obvious (ie/Athrun and Cagalli making out, Kira and Fley having sex). I think the pic may just be some fanfic crap, cuz its stupid to have Athrun get with another woman all of a sudden when he was fighting to protect Cagalli & Orb.
Check out the GSD Wikipedia article under the "criticism" section:

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Much criticism in the media and fanbase is concentrated at director Mitsuo Fukuda for making popular returning Gundam Seed characters (such as Kira) preeminent in favor of those newly introduced Seed Destiny characters. Animation director Yousuke Kabashima also critized Chikaki Morosawa in his blog, for shifting the storyline on the fly and habitually turning in scripts late, and also implied that she only had her job as chief writer because she was Fukuda's wife (a suggestion echoed by fans). Morosawa has also received heavy criticism from fans for abruptly writing Cagalli, previously an important, popular and strong-willed character, out of the story and ending her relationship with Athrun without explanation. This unexplained plot change was conducted without mitigating circumstances and little to no notice by any of the characters. Criticism of this change was exacerbated by a post-series interview in which she gave explanations that many fans felt to be dubious at best. A target of particular scorn is her assertion that Athrun would need to be the leader of his own nation for their romance to resume, even though logically such a situation would make a relationship more difficult (nations inherently have differing agendas, making a romance between their leaders an obvious conflict of interest).
At first when I saw the ending I thought they were intentionally leaving it unresolved. But it sounds like the upper people did decide to kill the romance. With hardly an ounce of writing effort, unfortunately. Cagalli got treated real, real bad by Destiny - not that Meryin got any real character development, either.


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Old Apr 11, 2006, 11:48 PM #2 of 85
Originally Posted by ms-07
OST 4 has been out for about 2 months now.

http://tracker.minglong.org/torrents...s).zip.torrent

Not sure if it's still seeded, otherwise you might have to grab it from their (nipponsei) irc channel.
Thanks, it's working!


Originally Posted by Box Lunch
I just hope the story ends with some one explaining WTH BEING THE ULITMAE COORDINATOR MEANS!!! o_O
I thought it was explained at the end of Seed? Major spoilers for the end of the series:

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My impression was Kira's real dad, Dr. Hibiki, was frustrated by genetic engineering's attempts to influence births because the human factor kept screwing it up. You can see in Episode 45 people complaining that they paid good money for a different eye colour, etc. etc., but that a human birth still has too many variables for co-ordinaters to be made-to-order.

So Hibiki wanted to grow perfect humans in mechanical wombs, where he'd control all the variables. But he couldn't get it working and lots of his manufactured specimens kept dying. So, eventually he ripped Kira out of his mom's womb and stuck him into the process, and it worked. Because of this special process, Kira is superior even to other co-ordinators and is basically genetically perfect. Admittedly all of that isn't outright said, but I read between the lines in the flashbacks (especially in episode 45) and it makes sense. Hibiki's purpose was just to push humanity higher and further, "because there's happiness in being better" - nothing indicates there was any further motivation to Kira's creation (like some sinister plot from some group).

Rau Le Creuset mocked Kira about this, because so many failed attempts were made to create humans before him. And in Destiny Rey was like "you must be destroyed because everyone would want to be like you" and "you should never have existed" (presumably because of all the failed trials before him). But perhaps they're also bitter because Dr. Hibiki made Le Creuset to help raise money for the research that made Kira.

If you wanted to stretch things a bit, you might saw that Rau/Rey embody determinism/pre-destination because they were born doomed. Whereas Kira, who was born perfect and can do almost anything well, fights for free will and self-determination.


...but they've never really explained what going SEED means, it's true. Except that it involves genetics and destiny or something.

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