Integration problems

Quote:

That's going to make being a tourist in "Dutchland" so much fun! Glad to see such "enlightened" policy in European countries.

Quote:

Wow, it seems that Europe can no longer take the high ground when they laugh at Americans for our sudden lack of civil liberties.

In other words, it's not just a ridiculous law, it's an unethical one

Quote:

I know. That's what make's this all the more hilarious. They never had the high ground in the first place.

Just wondering, guys, how are you going to bring this subject up (as one would load ammunition into a gun of some sort) when in a debate with a European over American policies that are actually law?

"Yeah but remember that one woman from the Netherlands - widely recognised for being a harebrained hardliner even in her own country - who once proposed an idea to limit public speech to Dutch only? A-ha! See, I've got you!"

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Watts

I'm sure plenty of Americans think some of our policies are extreme as well. So your point is moot.

Amercian policies that are in effect? You know this isn't law in the Netherlands?

Those posts I quoted, they look like two people entering into this thread and announcing "ha you're no better than us!", just because of some mad woman. Now it's fine if you want to score points against the Europeans, it just would be a little less confounding to onlookers to do it some thread thats not about what isn't really happening. Is that alright?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

It's a shame the journals aren't up, you could put that stuff in an entry with, like, a link in a signature somewhere saying something like "an education on seditious libel" so people can read it voluntarily. Nice gig though, you got me good.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Ok, a little advice I may impart. For a really big payoff, I would wait until someone who is actually trying to counter your point bites. Also, that way anyone who's just attempting to point out some logical shortfallings doesn't have to waste their time on someone feigning ignorance and playing games for whatever reason.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Why didn't you make the point straight away? Why did you feel somebody had to lead you there? You know this thread has been sullied slightly because of your inablity to air your view point in the normal course of debate? But if Bradylama tells me trawling is commonplace over a straight laying down of opinions, then I've got it all wrong, for which you should excuse me.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Watts

It's more of a 'journey of self-discovery' that way. I don't like preaching. Plus it was kinda fun; "You Europeans started it the moment you acted all superior to Americans!" and likewise.

As I say though, at least wait until someone who proves they need the journey comes along, before smugly showing your hand. It still stands that I'm neither agreeing or disagreeing with your standpoint concerning the issue of free speech or whatever, and my original interjection into the topic was based on your application of view, rather than content (which you kept hidden anyway).

Quote:

Mmm okay. It could've also been sullied by the general ignorance about common law regarding freedom of speech that's older then 100 years? But I guess I'll take the blame for sullying the thread.

That'll be ignorance about something that wasn't part of the equation when I made my first post, then.

Quote:

I'll leave it to Brady to explain himself, but I think he was just saying you were overreacting over nothing. If a moderator had a problem with what I did, they'd inform me.

I'm just in favour of straightforward debate rather than pussyfooting around. If you've got something to say on an issue, especially something which you think will educate, come out and share it, there's no need for muddying up a discussion with these games and provocative one liners before hand. I'd call it more 'reacting' than 'overreacting' to want things more clear cut.

Quote:

Regardless I've made my point.

You got there in the end huh?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Bradylama

Acting as if you're not affected by a quip or otherwise is just a waste of space. Clearly you would be, because you've taken the time to expunge on how unaffected you are.

Where did I do that?

Quote:

Watts is being kind of an asshole by sounding full of himself, but that isn't particularly wrong, and neither is stringing somebody along to help prove a point. That's a part of discussion.

Would you say then, that Watts' discussion methods have moved this thread in a positive direction?

FELIPE NO