[PS3] PlayStation 3 Fan Noise. Annoyingly loud, ain't it?

Originally Posted by El Ray Fernando

So Sony is Extorting us Europeans with buy it now or you won't get one because we shit all over Europe.Of course this paves the way for the 80gb model but that will probably be priced at £400/around $800 with no god damn games knowing Sony. They are forcing my arm to get the reduced price PS3 now because they aren't selling any in the UK.

I was hoping to buy one in late January but the 40gb will probably be the only model avaliable eventually with no backwards compatibility and a dinky hardrive? So no buy!

Seriously WTF is wrong with them.

60GB PS3 to be discontinued in UK - News at GameSpot

I really wouldn't be all that surprised if by January of next year Sony announces the return of PS2 BC in the 40GB models. The only reason the 40GB models don't feature BC is because the PS2 Graphic Synthesizer processor was removed and they still haven't finished the emulation code for the chip. Sounds like they are rushing to get a cheaper model out to the public for Christmas time and targeting PS2 owners with this model.

It's interesting to note that the 40GB models supposedly can still play PS1 games since the PS1 hardware is still being used as the I/O processor for the PS3.

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Ah damn, I was hoping the 40GB model would come in at like $350 to match the $340 Japanese price.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

So I'm behind on the PS3 mod scene or more than likely the lack of one. Has a reasonable way to copy and play PS2 games off of the PS3 hard drive been developed yet?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

In-game XMB access would be about the greatest thing they could add at this point.

The 2.0 firmware is also supposed to mark another major cut in required system resources for the Playstation OS. Memory reservations in main memory will be cut in half and video memory by 3/4th of current. The OS will also not require one of the SPEs be reserved though the requirement that a game application be able to give up a SPE on request of the OS will still be required. This was mentioned a few months back so I don't know if they are still on track to introduce this in the 2.0 version, but these changes should eventually come along in a future update.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Strife

I've only had my ps3 for 2 weeks now, but I have a question... is there any way to see what your friends are playing online? I can see that they are online, but how do i know what they are playing so I can with them?

It's not featured yet. I expect a lot of the online functionality is being held back to be put into Home. I just hope they offer a lot of the Home functionality within the XMB once it finally comes out.

And FYI, 2.0 hit a bit early and is available right now.

I was speaking idiomatically.

This theme creator is so my kind of thing. Well something to do with the machine while waiting for the games.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

There are also a few official themes on the Playstation network.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Hantei

This is just bullshit, apparently dust voids your console's warrantly now. In Sony's eyes anyway. Now I gotta be even more anal about keeping my console clean (already got linen covering it, when not in operation obivously, to keep the cat hair out).

This is quite interesting


Sony: Dust Voids PS3 Warranty

Having worked at a PC repair business before I can tell you that dust voids your warranty on every component in your PC. Keeping your system clean is your responsibility, not the responsibility of the manufacturer.

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Wow they are really listening to their customers when it comes to media playback on the PS3. I wonder if they will take the next step and offer MKV container support like some standalone DVD players have been offering.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Megalith Prime

Have they figured out how to play 5.1 audio from .MP4 yet.

I know that the latest firmware supports multichannel audio, but only for .ts. But nobody care about that.

The next update may. It seems this is going to be a big media playback update. XviD support is also being rumored now along with internal audio channel upmixing support for the 3 or so PS3 owners who don't own a Pro Logic II receiver. There are talks of the PS3 being able to read shared files/folders on a network without using a special protocol in the next update as well. It seems the only thing holding them back at this point is working out licensing deals with various patent holders for each format and dealing with Microsofts lock on NTFS.

How ya doing, buddy?

Yes, that is exactly what I mean.

Right now the PS3 only has limited file sharing protocols active in the form of Window Media Share which is also loaded with DRM. But it looks like Sony is slowly moving away from the DRM protection the PS3 was originally designed with which has opened the path to h.264 playback, unencrypted multichannel audio playback and now DivX/XviD. And of course using an open protocol like IP/TCP (which the PS3 already has for Internet access) for file sharing is looking to be a likely reality. The Playstation 3 SDKs already allow for this. Looks like it was just disabled on consumer machines most likely for DRM reasons.

And actually if they just dump Windows Media Sharing altogether in favor of IP/TCP sharing they'll be able to cut the OS memory footprint even more.

How ya doing, buddy?

Well besides in-game XMB which sounds like will happen eventually in the future since the lead Sony engineer made a comment about it being known as the most want feature, I hope for a fix in every firmware update that prevents the damn controller from turning off every time I enter PS2 emulation mode.

Blu-ray Disc Profile 1.1 is a big deal though and a huge step for Blu-Ray to become the chosen standard of the two competing formats.

How ya doing, buddy?

So has anyone ran into issues with the XMB locking up recently? I haven't had any in-game problems but I finally got to mess around with the functions of the PS3 over Christmas for the first time in a long time and it locked up on me twice. I'm positive this isn't heat related since the system fan was running at its lowest in both instances. The PS3 recognized both errors too as when I attempted to turn off the system to reboot it I got the three beep error code both times.

I was speaking idiomatically.

If your panel is an 8-bit panel it will only support Limited RGB. If it is a 10-bit or 14-bit panel it will support Full Range RGB. In reality any display will support this, however 8-bit panels will normally produce noticeable banding if you try and feed it a full range signal.

Either way this should not matter. The differences between limited and full basically change how you calibrate your display. A HDTV set to full range properly calibrated will look exactly the same as a HDTV set to limited properly calibrated. Most people who use their HDTV as a PC monitor will calibrate around a Full Range RGB signal since this is the standard output for PCs and people who use their HDTV for games and movies will use Limited Range and calibrate around that.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Megalith

PS2/1 games look hideous on PS3.

Keep your old systems.

You have your PS3 set to 1080p output for the PS1/PS2 upscaling? Playing games from my PS2 on my HDTV looks bad to the point of unplayable while the PS3 upscaling actually makes most of them look pretty damned good.

FELIPE NO

The PS3 uses Nvidias per-pixel adaptive deinterlacing and scaling found in the latest PureVideo. I doubt there is a TV out there with better scaling and deinterlacing hardware, but maybe they are using some shader settings that don't look good to you and unfortunately there is only an on/off setting for it. Maybe one day they'll allow for more user control of the scaler like sharpness level during the inverse transformation.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by DarthSavior

I know that PS2/1 emulation on the 80GB model is laughable, but does Sony have any intention on improving it (firmware upgrades that allow more games to be played)? I'd buy a 60GB model, but I just don't trust buying it used. Finding it new won't be easy.

Software emulation is above 90% now and hardly laughable. And yes they seem to fit in small fixes for BC in nearly every firmware release.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

LCDs don't suffer from image burn-in, this is only an issue with Plasma screens (and even then its only a major issue with older Plasma screesn). LCDs can develop afterimages or what they call image persistence but the ghosting will disappear if you just shut off the screen for a bit or watch moving images for a while. You pretty much cannot do any permanent damage to a LCD screen with static images unless you leave some image on all the time for days straight to where the liquid crystal will form a memory. But again this takes days, not hours of use to produce. I've only seen this once and this was on an LCD TV we used at our work to display stock information. The boarders used in the stock display finally burned in after a few weeks of being left on continuously displaying that same template.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Tafer

Even now that's not a serious issue with current plasma technology. I heard it's still possible, but you have to cooperate on destroying a perfectly fine and new HDTV...

Yeah, pixel orbiting (monitors all pixels on the screen and quickly moves static images from one pixel to another) which is used in Plasmas 6th gen and above pretty much removes the possibility of image burn-in from say a broadcast logo or a video game HUD, but there are still issues with uneven wear on Plasma screens if you view a lot of 4:3 content or such with large black bars constantly. This isn't really burn-in but people tend to group it together since its a similar effect. What is really happening is with Plasma displays, black is actually made by removing all voltage from the pixel unlike with LCD so in say a 4:3 picture on plasma the middle area will become dimmer due to natural wear quicker than the black bar areas so you end up with 19:9 screens with uneven brightness levels across the picture.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

espressivo, try turning off the Information Board. I was also getting some lock-ups and going on the advice I found elsewhere, turning that off seems to have resolved my lock-up issues.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Shenlon

I have another question @_@
I plugged in my 80gb usb harddrive into the ps3. It's partitioned into two 40gb halfs but its not detecting the master first half. It only detects the slave second. Why is that o-0?

Are both partitioned as FAT32 drives? The Playstation 3 cannot read NTFS drives.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Paramount's contract has an exit clause. There are rumors now that they are going to announce a break-away at CES as well now. This is looking like the end of HD-DVD for sure. Hopefully now HDM can finally focus on gaining market from DVD.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

If you are planning on using the TV mostly for gaming a 720p HDTV which accepts 1080p input is the best way to go right now. You'll be able to feed it 1080p signals and have content downscale to 768p rather than always feed it 720p signals and having it upscale. And 720p upscaled to 1080p native doesn't look at that great and 1080i doesn't seem to be much of an option for the PS3.

FELIPE NO

More than likely they are going to move to a 45nm Cell for the 80GB or whatever model replaces it. Rumor is its going to be bumped to 120GB which is possible since the cost to Sony is completely dependent on the hdd market. They may be able to get 120gb drives cheaper than 80gb drives these days.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

For those worried that Home is just going to be a Second Life clone, here's a taste of its uses:

How Resistance: Fall of Man Makes Home Really, Really Cool

How Uncharted: Drake's Fortune Makes Home Really, Really Cool

Playstation 3: How Warhawk Makes Home Really, Really Cool


I actually know someone who is working on a Home Space project and got a bit in info for him. The coolest thing is how Home integrates with other games. It has various asset hooks so developers can port their game models directly into a Home Space. So for example, Square could potentially make an addon that allows for a fully rendered Lightning to greet you in your own Home Space. 3rd parties could also use this to hype up games by holding public events within Home using various characters from the upcoming game. Think Kratos showing up in a public square and holding a fist fight match with Home avatars a few days before GoW3 is released.

Jam it back in, in the dark.