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[PS2] Fursona 4 - It's like I'm really japanese again!
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Old Dec 4, 2008, 12:11 AM Local time: Dec 3, 2008, 09:11 PM #1 of 55
Just a FYI, Amazon has the basic release (still comes with the same soundtrack CD and art book the rest of the stores have) for $34.99, so 5 bucks off. Sweet deal as you don't have to give any money to EBGames and you can go buy yourself a few tacos with the money you saved.


And no I don't work for Amazon or anything.

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Old Dec 8, 2008, 12:26 AM Local time: Dec 7, 2008, 09:26 PM #2 of 55
So apparently this is tied in first with GTA3 and Tony Hawk 3 as being the highest rated game of all time on the PS2 based on Media Critic. Amazing for a game of this genre.

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Old Dec 10, 2008, 03:18 AM Local time: Dec 10, 2008, 12:18 AM #3 of 55
I got about an hour in as well and my only complaint so far is that I hate the color yellow.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Dec 13, 2008, 03:50 PM Local time: Dec 13, 2008, 12:50 PM #4 of 55
Yeah the game is a bit slower paced, but it is longer that P3 as well. It simply has more content all around.

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Old Dec 13, 2008, 10:03 PM Local time: Dec 13, 2008, 07:03 PM #5 of 55
My roommate finished his play through of the Japanese version in 102 hours where P3 FES (the main game) took him 71 hours his first play through, if you want to consider that confirmation. He says he actually missed a decent amount of side quests in P4 too.

Actual (battle) gameplay is probably about the same length, but P4 takes a lot more time to develop events, the characters and the story. Side quests are also serious business this time around. A lot more to them than just fetching junk for Elizabeth.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Dec 17, 2008, 02:57 AM Local time: Dec 16, 2008, 11:57 PM #6 of 55
Ugh, is it a bad thing that I'm struggling early one? I'm in Yukiko's Castle and I still haven't advanced past the 4thish floor?


I finally got to play some more and I'm finding the first area hard as well. I pretty much had P3 mastered but I'm not sure if I like all of the changes to the battle system. I hate being attacked in RPGs and I loved the fact that you could lock down battles so well in P3. I'm having trouble doing the same because first sneaking up on enemies in P4 is aggravating as hell. I'm only able to hit the floating balls things from behind 1 in 5 times and I've yet to figure out how to get a surprise attack against the shadow blobs.

I also really dislike that you have to find strengths and weaknesses rather than just scanning for them. I already killed myself once from reflected magic. And I find the knock down system in P4 kind of retarded compared to P3. Enemies can stand back up and attack in one turn so the real power of downing an enemy seems greatly diminished. I have no idea how I'm going to defeat some of the bosses if they are anything like P3 bosses if I can't knock them down to prevent them from attacking. Eh I'll probably get used to the changes and change is good. The P4 battle system just does not fit my play style as much as P3 did.

The only other thing is I really do find the interface a bit annoying. It's not just the yellow but it's too stylized for its own good. It does not feel as slick as P3's did and its enough for me to notice that is really isn't a very good interface.

Minor complaints to a really good game so far though. The changes to the social system are looking great and there is a whole lot more to do from the look of things.

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Old Dec 18, 2008, 04:56 PM Local time: Dec 18, 2008, 01:56 PM #7 of 55
Yeah I discovered dizzy playing last night and its made me appreciate the new system a bit more. However unless I'm mistaken, it seems impossible to refresh dizzy and the enemy will still get a chance to attack every other attack. Again only annoying to me because I enjoyed the P3 knock down system so much. I'm sure the P4 fights are designed with the fact that you can't completely lock enemies down like you were required to do in P3 and I'll eventually get used to it. I need to learn to defend too because I never defend in RPGs and it seems to be critical here.

I still don't like the encounter system though. You do have to wait around a lot longer to get initiative attacks. If you say screw it and just hit them then eventually you are going to run out of SP having to spend it on knocking down and healing. And in this one you can't recover HP and SP unless you leave the TV world and SP items are as rare as they were in P3.

I'm also really hoping Teddie or someone gets some upgrades too. Not being able to scan for weakness still sucks and I'm finding only being able to see who attacks next to be useless where being able to see the entire attack order in P3 was a core aspect of being able to do well in the game. Some of these changes just seem to be changes for the sake of changes rather than attempts at improvement.

And I don't mean to sound like I'm complaining. I'm enjoy the game, probably more than I enjoyed P3 at the moment.

Also, I can't unhear 'homo men' in the battle track after my friend pointed it out to me.

FELIPE NO

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Old Dec 21, 2008, 01:38 PM Local time: Dec 21, 2008, 10:38 AM #8 of 55
From what I hear, there are only two social links that can reverse and its very obvious if you go down that path. The girl relationship aspect is separated from their social link this time as you are able to pick what girls you want more than a friendship with. I don't think you have to worry about girls getting jealous in P4. If they do the game is going to warn you about it like it did in P3.


Also the bathhouse boss is hilarious. The nice guy casting pose is just lol.

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