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Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
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Old Jul 12, 2007, 08:40 PM Local time: Jul 12, 2007, 08:40 PM #1 of 50
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Trailer hinted that it was Cho who betrays them and not her friend, is this true?
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Yes. Marietta Edgecomb is not the film. They must have figured it would be an easy way to end Harry and Cho's relationship, due to time constraints, than the who coffee shop fiasco and Harry's insensitivity. I thought it worked pretty well.


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Old Jul 13, 2007, 11:22 PM Local time: Jul 13, 2007, 11:22 PM #2 of 50

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They did not show an explanation of how the Order of the Phoenix was able to enter the Dursley house undetected. Minor thing but I still found it funny in the book. St. Mungo's is not in the film. Instead, Arthur apparently apparates to inside number 12, Grimmauld Place. (If I remember correctly, the Blacks had measures in place to prevent this.) Buckbeak does not make an appearance, nor does Umbridge trying to get to Sirius, instead Harry is busted even before he sticks his head into the fire. Cho betrays the DA instead of her friend Marietta. When the Weasley twins make their escape, its a good fireworks show but there is no massive swamp taking up the entire hallway. Much of the initial exploration of the Department of Mysteries is not in the film, including the room with the spinning doors.
None of which is terribly important to the main plot.

I thought that the way it was written and what was changed and cut was very well done. Considering the length and density of the original book, it was excellent.

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Old Jul 14, 2007, 01:22 PM Local time: Jul 14, 2007, 01:22 PM #3 of 50
The reason that I enjoyed this so much is because you could tell that Michael Goldenberg (the screenwriter) is a great fan of the books and that he did his research.

It's true that due to time constraints and the fact that it is the longest and most dense book, they had to make some changes to the plot and it is thus probably the least adherent to the original book.

It was the little details that made the movie for me:
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Kreacher mumbling to himself while cleaning off Mrs. Black's picture frame, the Black family tree, Luna's radish earrings, the goat in the Hog's Head.


It's these little things that only die hard fans of the series will catch or understand the significance of that allow me to see past any plot changes or clarifications that are added due to the change in medium.

Besides the ending, which I must say was pretty abrupt.
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(They didn't even mention Sirius' death, besides from Bellatrix's shouts. Or discuss the significance of the prophecy? For two such vital things in capturing Harry's true mindset, they were pretty lax on that.)

I think that this movie is one of the best at capturing the mood and the essence of the book. I truly enjoyed this movie and am excited to see what David Yates can do with Half-Blood Prince.

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Old Jul 14, 2007, 07:23 PM Local time: Jul 14, 2007, 07:23 PM #4 of 50
Did they have a new director for this movie? The movie was certainly fast-paced but a lot of the camera work was incredibly diverse from the other films.
Yes, David Yates directed this one. He is also doing Half-Blood Prince, I believe.

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She thought that the mention of Snape overhearing the prophecy was highly significant; I have to admit, it gives a more plausible shape to Harry's hatred of him.
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Harry doesn't learn that it was Snape who over heard the prophecy until the end of Half-Blood Prince, if I am not mistaken. Trelawney mentions it when she is talking about her job interview with Dumbledore, after she is thrown out of the Room of Reguirement by Draco Malfoy.


One continuity thing that did bother me:
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The use of the levicorpus spell by the students both during the DA lessons and the fight at the ministry. Harry first (knowingly) learns of this spell from the Half-Blood Prince's book, so none of the kids should know it at this point in time.


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