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Old Oct 29, 2006, 02:53 AM Local time: Oct 29, 2006, 01:53 AM #1 of 58
http://www.zucchiniblossom.com
This was a site I did for my cousin's kickass and popular Mediterranean-style restaurant. Ashamed of myself for creating such an abomination, I learned CSS in three months to redesign their site.

http://www.sky-render.com/test/zb2
This is their redesigned page. The project hasn't gone anywhere because my dumbass cousin refuses to give me any data to put on their site. :/ Most people would be glad to have a web designer do pro work for FREE!

http://www.sky-render.com/test/fc2
A slight modification to the incomplete website for my hosting company. Lack of motivation has put our company on ice for a while until I'm done school at least. It could use a couple small tweaks and some actual content :/



Originally Posted by Ultima
How many of you are active web designers? For me, its one of my favorite passtimes next to drawing. I'd love to see some other people's concept sites and share ideas.

Some sites I've worked on:
http://www.designdraft.net/ <-- personal blog
http://www.ani-6.com/ <-- old old idea for a site
http://www.ani-6.com/blueos <-- my CDS site
http://www.ani-6.com/lagdemo <-- my club's site (Working)
http://www.ani-6.com/concept <-- a revision of ani-6.com I'm working on
I understand the minimalistic theme you had going for your websites, but it just doesn't come out quite right. I think for designdraft, there should be some font diversity. Arial/Helvetica is just not a pretty font; too plain. A little dark gray to offset the black would be slightly more pleasing to eye, as well.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Oct 29, 2006, 08:34 PM Local time: Oct 29, 2006, 07:34 PM #2 of 58
Originally Posted by Erisu Kimu
Not annoying. Frustrating. I still like it though. I'm just not really a graphics guy, so my skills in Photoshop, Illustrator and Fireworks are average at best. I can make a couple of decent layouts and I can provide content, but that's as far as I'm going. I love doing the content.
You and I could get along well. I HATE doing the content, but love doing the initial site design. :P

What exactly are you learning in your web design classes? I've always been curious since a girl from my class dropped out of Networking to enroll for a web class.

If it's HTML and CSS, then no thanks. I wouldn't mind some PHP and Photoshop classes since I'm average at best. PHP, I don't even know. SQL and Javascript I'm learning in my Programming classes this semester and next. I like doing the HTML, CSS, design and Photoshop portions the best. I would like to start a web design business sometime, but I need a back-end coding partner to make my sites dynamic. I can't do it. :P

There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 01:45 AM Local time: Oct 30, 2006, 12:45 AM #3 of 58
Originally Posted by Qube
Render, html and css are just as much a part of webdesign as php is. php outputs html files, so you still need to know how to make it work even if it's going to be powered by php.

Or....are you saying that you wouldn't want those classes because you already have skills in that area. It's great to reread things lol.

PHP is best learned on one's own, starting projects from scratch. I've always found it's the only way to truly learn it, because it has so many functions and variations on how to do things, that if you only use the methods they teach in a school, you won't be as skilled as if you learned all the ins and outs, and when it's best to use the different techniques.

Maybe I'm just biased because I got nothing out of any programming classes I have ever been in.

On another note, I've also been contemplating starting a web design business sometime, however I tend to prefer working on the guts of a site, not the design part. As much as I can do alright in that department, I just prefer to be playing with the database and internal code stuffs. We should talk.
I'm all for self-teaching, but I started with HTML when they taught it to me in my first year of junior high (sup 1997). It was just a stepping stone that lead me in the right direction. I would recommend an introductory class to anyone who is thinking of getting into web design. I just kept on with it because I thought it was cool to put something where everyone could see it. And by something, I mean lame-ass Final Fantasy sites.


Originally Posted by Qube
On another note, I've also been contemplating starting a web design business sometime, however I tend to prefer working on the guts of a site, not the design part. As much as I can do alright in that department, I just prefer to be playing with the database and internal code stuffs. We should talk.
On Friday, I said to my Javascript instructor: "I pretty much hate the grit of the programming for the web. I do HTML and CSS and I'm an art student; I'm somewhere in between programmer and artist. I just need to team up with a back-end coder and my web business will be whole."

I'm pretty serious on starting my own company. That FissionCore site design is for the "company" I co-run/own whatever for web hosting. I've just been bogged down with life shit (college and work) to get around to building on what we have. I had planned on including web design as a side thing to get money, because I'm the site designer and the other 2 are programmers. Our company runs itself because we break even on our server costs and we don't get new clients. Nothing ever happens lol. I'm itching to make some money through web design. My email is MSN is needforspeed_89@hotmail.com if you wanna chat sometime

How ya doing, buddy?
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Old Oct 30, 2006, 04:38 PM Local time: Oct 30, 2006, 03:38 PM #4 of 58
Was that flash video HUGE or was it a crappy connection? It took about two minutes to load :/ And even after the fact, once it was loaded, all of the site's content wasn't preloaded. Flash isn't for websites, anymore. Any no, Metal, you're not taking Web 2.0 too seriously. The logic behind it was created for a good reason: accessibility, truer dynamic content, and just less annoying web browsing. I'm not gonna lie here: A Flash video for a website is really annoying.

My suggestion: Stick with HTML, CSS, and JS.

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Old Oct 31, 2006, 01:42 AM Local time: Oct 31, 2006, 12:42 AM #5 of 58
Originally Posted by Qube
<span>this</span><span>that</span>

instead of

<span>this</span>
<span>that</span>

Believe me I was pissed off when that fixed things for me, but grateful that it did fix things.
As a rule, I only use block-level syntax for my page elements. For instance, all text gets wrapped in <p> tags. It's a good idea since it doesn't let the browser decide where to put stuff on the page; the CSS code tells it exactly where to go.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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